Why does this subforum constantly align itself with white supremacy and c00ns simply for talking points?

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Colonized and oppressed people will simply validate the words and messaging of their captors.
 

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I understand what op is saying but ur never gonna mentally mature if u only read, listen to things that only align to ur pov....when people challenge ur worldview it gives a u a chance to critically think and say to yourself is what the other person saying is correct or not...sadly nikkas just wanna hear an echo so, they dont mature.

it literally a logical fallacy to say because someone u dont like says something therefore their statement is invalid. lmao.. that is type of thinking that folks thinks makes them smart. are conservatives generally racist yes? however, if u are indeed black and over 30 u should now that we have hundreds of examples of liberal personalities, media etc that spew out racist shyt too..soo that's why u gotta take the statements folks make and see if its valid and sound and then go from there.
 

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The problem is that we don't even want to acknowledge what time it is.

I agree. That’s why I’m perplexed seeing so many posters here side with white supremacists because of wedge culture war issues.

If we could acknowledge what time it was there would be a unified stance against empowering those folks.

Instead we like our racism out in the open and it’s a circular firing squad here everyday against: black women, black children, black immigrants, the poor, and lgbt.
 

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I understand what op is saying but ur never gonna mentally mature if u only read, listen to things that only align to ur pov....when people challenge ur worldview it gives a u a chance to critically think and say to yourself is what the other person saying is correct or not...sadly nikkas just wanna hear an echo so, they dont mature.

it literally a logical fallacy to say because someone u dont like says something therefore their statement is invalid. lmao.. that is type of thinking that folks thinks makes them smart. are conservatives generally racist yes? however, if u are indeed black and over 30 u should now that we have hundreds of examples of liberal personalities, media etc that spew out racist shyt too..soo that's why u gotta take the statements folks make and see if its valid and sound and then go from there.

I read from multiple sources, I even visit the places we do not name on here just to capture the mindset of those who oppose my existence...but you will never see me say the same things they do.
 

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Yeah, the "personal responsibility" nonsense is at the core of so many dumb ideas, it's honestly painful as hell to even engage with someone on that issue. Truth is, the higher you go in academia associated with the fields that consider personal responsibility, philosophy for example, the less and less you see it as ever playing a factor in decision making. Now I'm biased as a determinist, but just in my experience, you will be hard pressed convincing anyone otherwise, especially religious people, as libertarian free will is the foundation of the Abrahamic approach.

People need more philosophy, that is something I will always continue to push but it needs to come early, because one irony is that I don't think these adults are reachable, and by that, I mean the amount of effort needed just isn't worth it. Instead I think better forms of reasoning and engagement with philosophy should be done around the time someone enters high school, even though, another irony, is that it's suggested through brain development, that adults are supposed to be the best equipped to handle these subjects. Problem is, they lack the tools, and when those tools are at complete odds with their seemingly concrete worldview, good luck ever convincing them otherwise, it's like arguing with a wall.


Also, that other guy you are arguing with above is a flat earther as well. :snoop:Some people are truly doomed.
With the culture war the right are fighting against CRT you can forget about that ever happening
 

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It's almost like there's been an ongoing strategy from the far-right to disrupt public discourse as a way of usurping global politics.

“Crosby is described as favouring what is called a wedge strategy, whereby the party he advises introduces a divisive or controversial social issue into a campaign, aligning its own stance with the dissenting faction of its opponent party, with the goal of causing vitriolic debate inside the opposing party, defection of its supporters, and the legitimising of sentiment which had previously been considered inappropriate.“


If only Steve Bannon had openly said multiple times he wants to accelerate the destruction of democracy and the world in general.
 

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I agree. That’s why I’m perplexed seeing so many posters here side with white supremacists because of wedge culture war issues.

If we could acknowledge what time it was there would be a unified stance against empowering those folks.

Instead we like our racism out in the open and it’s a circular firing squad here everyday against: black women, black children, black immigrants, the poor, and lgbt.

This is it right here

And a lot of these culture wars are perpetuated by outsiders, specifically white women and white gay people
 
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I understand what op is saying but ur never gonna mentally mature if u only read, listen to things that only align to ur pov....when people challenge ur worldview it gives a u a chance to critically think and say to yourself is what the other person saying is correct or not...sadly nikkas just wanna hear an echo so, they dont mature.

it literally a logical fallacy to say because someone u dont like says something therefore their statement is invalid. lmao.. that is type of thinking that folks thinks makes them smart. are conservatives generally racist yes? however, if u are indeed black and over 30 u should now that we have hundreds of examples of liberal personalities, media etc that spew out racist shyt too..soo that's why u gotta take the statements folks make and see if its valid and sound and then go from there.
Everyone should be capable of providing the best version of their opponent's argument, its a necessity to strengthen your position. Problem is, as I put it before, these people are either intentionally engaging in bad faith or too stupid to realize they are. So what happens is, I, at least reluctantly, and many other serious posters respond with serious engagement and are met with constant low effort. They pushing rhetoric on par with right wing rhetoric and we are required to approach it seriously as they just respond with one sentence, sometimes not even reading anything we posted. See this for example, this just have a bit ago:

Read the comment I'm responding to then see my response, and the follow-up response afterwards.



It will always take more than a sentence to combat that rhetoric, yet it's seen as being fair and promoting free speech to allow that level of low effort regarding serious topics? As I said, you can't engage reasonably with these people.
 

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I read from multiple sources, I even visit the places we do not name on here just to capture the mindset of those who oppose my existence...but you will never see me say the say things they do.

ok that sense i agree,,, but coli nikkas (not u exactly) get emotional when folks says anything that is not the conventional democratic/leftist view and i honestly dont wanna be pigeonholed. i dont agree with the tranny movement, gender neutral and other nonsense for example, but at the same time i know racist conservatives like to attack the so called wokeism to really attack black folks indirectly , so its a tight line that i got to learn to walk.

leftist are usually pro abortion but am not u see. that dont mean am republican , i just have set values, and if they happen to fall on the right or left of this made up political spectrum then so be it :manny:
 

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Your not making any sense. Especially the part about “ your people in power”. Leftists ideology revolves around improving the material conditions for 99% of people in the country.

I honestly don’t think you have idea what you actually want to do that can actually work. You keep saying “your people” as if someone is here working against black people. You don’t even have real answers to these problems yet act as if someone with a realistic path that revolves around putting black Americans in seats of power at a local level is somehow a nefarious plan vs your strongly worded crap that does absolutely nothing plan.

You also keep twisting my words around and it’s getting old. You’re not actually having this conversation in good faith at all
How can’t black people unifying and working
together work? How isn’t black people turning to each other easier than telling them to infiltrate a centuries old system that for the full extent of those centuries has actively worked to the disenfranchisement of black people? And then once infiltrating it steering it away from disenfranchising black people but towards empowering them? And why would the people who have been actively disenfranchising black people sit back and allow this to happen when this removes power from their hands?

And like I keep saying you’re the type that would go tell a young impressionable black child that unless he gets help from cacs he won’t succeed. While I’d tell him that no matter what anyone does to put obstacles in the way of his success, he can succeed. Which approach is actually empowering?

There aren’t “good faith” discussions with people who want to tow political lines in a country that has been oppressing one group of people since it’s inception no matter what side is in power. But because of your political line you’ll lie and say it’s easier to infiltrate this system and redirect it away from disenfranchising black people and turning to empowering than for black people just turning to each other and working together.
 
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With the culture war the right are fighting against CRT you can forget about that ever happening


Yeah, I hate to get conspiratorial, but I honestly believe they intentionally attempt to make or keep people dumb. It obviously benefits the party. But I know for sure if a bill for education was put forth with all of the details to guarantee smarter citizens, it would be shot down by Republicans even if a Republican put it forth. This country is a mess. And we have to almost sit by and watch it happen because combatting requires so much fukking effort.
 

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ok that sense i agree,,, but coli nikkas (not u exactly) get emotional when folks says anything that is not the conventional democratic/leftist view and i honestly dont wanna be pigeonholed. i dont agree with the tranny movement, gender neutral and other nonsense for example, but at the same time i know racist conservatives like to attack the so called wokeism to really attack black folks indirectly , so its a tight line that i got to learn to walk.

leftist are usually pro abortion but am not u see. that dont mean am republican , i just have set values, and if they happen to fall on the right or left of this made up political spectrum then so be it :manny:

This is the most emotional forum I've ever been on. Someone could disagree with a poster but depending how it's said they now have internet beef for years. Not to mention the numerous threats of "pull ups" that never come to fruition.
 

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This is CUCK logic . So if a liberal news source doesn’t post something because it doesn’t fit their agenda I guess we as black men are supposed to stay in the dark because. Our liberal daddy said so :mjlol:

It’s low iq thinking . A while back I was in a thread where a poster was like omg why isn’t anyone talking about this and they spent 5 pages talking about the source like some jackasses but I guess we’re not supposed to come to our conclusions as black men :francis:

If it’s not white liberal or black woman approved I guess we can’t share it with each other and Discuss it:camby:
Of course you're gonna deflect and juelz. It's not about 'discussing' it's you pieces of shyt actively aligning with the alt-right, like saying shyt like 'CUCK logic'.

Kill yourself. :obama:
 

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Yeah, I hate to get conspiratorial, but I honestly believe they intentionally attempt to make or keep people dumb. It obviously benefits the party. But I know for sure if a bill for education was put forth with all of the details to guarantee smarter citizens, it would be shot down by Republicans even if a Republican put it forth. This country is a mess. And we have to almost sit by and watch it happen because combatting requires so much fukking effort.
But you still have to fight it the best way you can you cant just roll over :myman:
 

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Black culture in this country is in a clear, and obvious nosedive—but if you call it out, nikkas like the OP will call you a c00n that uses WS talking points:dead:
the dumbass whitlock shyt was just one example, there's countless instances of people in TLR aligning with the alt-right on all sorts of political issues. especially that 'build the wall' shyt

keep caping though :obama:
 
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