Why does Vince Russo hate Kevin Owens?

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He's built like an offensive lineman who are some of the strongest athletes in sports ? Also it's fake , it's like short ass tom Cruise being an action star

Offensive lineman are 6'3 minimum :heh:

I dont normally listen to Russo but hes right on the money with everything he said about owens. And he put almost 100% of the blame on creative for not booking him properly to a casual audience
 
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I don't see what the big deal is. He doesn't have to be big or muscular to be intimidating. Besides, dude can fukking wrestle his ass off.

Dude is money, 100%.

i am with russo. nothing against owens personally but i believe the work must be put above all else. if you can't believe a guy can win in a real fight, why would you believe he could win a fake one.

if u didn't know any better and you saw kevin owens and ryback in the same room... who would you pick a fight with first.
 

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GOATsso penned the height of wrestling, it's lost more than half the viewers since


Now that that's out the way, the average fan will keep flipping the channel when they see a fat out of shape looking neckbeard on tv, the marks will watch no matter what. Before you marks bring up Dusty and Foley, they were he exception to the rule.

It's really not complicated
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The problem I got with this narrative is that the average wrestling fan isn't the casual fan anymore. Meaning most of these wrestling fans today are up on the internet, the dirt sheets, the indies, NXT, the whole nine yards. And people like that don't give a fukk what the wrestler look like as long as he/she can talk, work, and entertain. The casual audience dipped a long time ago, the only true marks left are little kids. You don't need Kevin Owens to be your Reigns/Rock/Cena/Orton/Lesnar/Austin/Hogan thoroughbred athlete face of the company, but I don't see why he can't fill that Mankind/JBL/Jeff Hardy/Eddie/Big Show or even Triple H role, which are valuable roles to be had in the E. It's tricky to say what makes somebody "believable" in 2015, especially from a smark's perspective, so its impossibly retarded to chalk it all down to what somebody's body frame looks like. The time of big muscleheads been dawned, people like Rollins, Punk, Bryan, and Finn Balor are wrestling stars of the modern era.
Don't you dare be sour and exclude your two time champs :mjpls:
 

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Offensive lineman are 6'3 minimum :heh:

I dont normally listen to Russo but hes right on the money with everything he said about owens. And he put almost 100% of the blame on creative for not booking him properly to a casual audience

This, nikkas just want to hate GOATsso without actually hearing what he got to say
 

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I am not all that well-versed in MMA fighters so if you can name me a small fat guy in the UFC that is a top fighter I will concede the point to you. Otherwise you would have to admit that in the UFC the fat/flabby looking guys that end up being good are also at the higher weight classes and are not the same size as Joe Sixpack who works at the post office.
And the point about Owens isn't whether he has muscles or not but rather he is not an imposing figure at all. If he was a 6'5 fat guy then pushing him like he was super-tough and intimidating would work but him being barely 6 feet and chubby makes it a hard sell.
mark hunt is one of the toughest fighters in UFC and is a heavyweight and is out of shape and is under 6. And a bunch of heavyweights are like 6 ft or less . Owens can wrestle and use psychology. And sell merch that's what matters . Unless you think muscles are what sell
No saying he can't wrassle, but he isn't a draw
He was ontop of the nxt card for Brooklyn . Selling out Barclays
 

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i am with russo. nothing against owens personally but i believe the work must be put above all else. if you can't believe a guy can win in a real fight, why would you believe he could win a fake one.

if u didn't know any better and you saw kevin owens and ryback in the same room... who would you pick a fight with first.
Probably Ryback.

Ryback looks like he'd tear his bicep trying to throw a cross, like most unnecessarily muscular fighters I've seen that end up getting their jaw rocked by someone supposedly smaller or less "fit" than they were. Muscles =/= fighting skills. Being fit and strong helps, sure - but muscles won't make me buy you as legit straight away.
 
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Probably Ryback.

Ryback looks like he'd tear his bicep trying to throw a cross, like most unnecessarily muscular fighters I've seen that end up getting their jaw rocked by someone supposedly smaller or less "fit" than they were. Muscles =/= fighting skills. Being fit and strong helps, sure - but muscles won't make me buy you as legit straight away.

bro this response is lol but u know ur fukkin gassed :russ:
 

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mark hunt is one of the toughest fighters in UFC and is a heavyweight and is out of shape and is under 6. And a bunch of heavyweights are like 6 ft or less . Owens can wrestle and use psychology. And sell merch that's what matters . Unless you think muscles are what sell

He was ontop of the nxt card for Brooklyn . Selling out Barclays
Mark Hunt is Samoan...them dudes get a pass in this area. Its why Samoa Joe doesn't get clowned.

And my criticism of Owens has nothing to do with muscles. It is that he is supposed to be some sort of intimidating badass when he looks like the random fan in the crowd at Full Sail for a NXT show.
 
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Some people just want a big hoss with muscles or a tall dude as their main guy...you'll never convince them. A program with a demon and a spooky ghostman is somehow so much less believable if kevin owens wins
 
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Some people just want a big hoss with muscles or a tall dude as their main guy...you'll never convince them. A program with a demon and a spooky ghostman is somehow so much less believable if kevin owens wins

imagine that, wanting a heavyweight as the heavyweight champ... :jbhmm:
 
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