Why Doesnt Jack Johnson Get The Props That Muhammad Ali Gets?

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Because real boxing fans know he was afraid of Sam Langford, Joe Jeanette, Harry Wills and Sam McVey during his title ship

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Wasn't no money in fighting other black fighters when he started to bubble......Its prize fighting gentleman....

Besides....Langford was too little.......Harry Wills seemed like a beast from the old footage I've seen......Never seen the other 2

Word on the street is that Johnson and Langford did fight....and Langford pretty much got that work...Not sure if its true tho
 

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Wasn't no money in fighting other black fighters when he started to bubble......Its prize fighting gentleman....

Besides....Langford was too little.......Harry Wills seemed like a beast from the old footage I've seen......Never seen the other 2

Word on the street is that Johnson and Langford did fight....and Langford pretty much got that work...Not sure if its true tho
Nope. Wills, langford, Johnson , Jeannette etc all fought many times with split results in the papers, and Langford fared about as well as Johnson. Langford was superior to Jeannette and McVey and proved it many times. You are right about the money thing though.
 

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Ali was an insanely charismatic personality, a global one at that. He was in a position to inspire far more people than Jack Johnson. That in itself doesn't diminish what Jack Johnson achieved.

Ali was born 4 years after Johnson died. Ali became a figure at the dawn of popular culture. Don't really get what's hard to understand about that.


so was jack johnson.
 

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Johnson did shyt to piss off the white man subtly, Ali was a notch below Adrien Broner with his c00nin ways

I don't know how "subtle" Johnson was in pissing off the white man... Back at that time, there was no surer way for a n1gga to get that heat than openly cavorting with white women, especially while having the :smugdraper: look going on. Plus, son had him a roster of white broads, one even killed herself cause she was jealous of the other white women he was running around with...

I co-sign this thread. I used to think Ali was the O.G. boxing stunna, stylin on n1ggas and being slick with his mouthpiece, until I saw that Jack Johnson documentary on PBS back in 2005. While watching it I was like :ohhh::lolbron::whoo::merchant::lupe::myman::banderas::leon::salute::blessed:, especially when they showed that old footage of son chatting it up with the crowd at ringside while giving the white fighter that work... :mjlol:
 

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jack johnson was brave doing the shyt he was doing..one generation removed from slavery..dude led one of the more fascinating lives for any athlete..shyt in 2014 he still hasn't been pardoned from the crimes he so called committed from the unjust laws created by the govt for him in the 1910s..the days of him and ali are gone..and now who do we have thats a so called lightning rod for black boxers and racism? floyd mayweather :comeon::camby:
 
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jack johnson was brave doing the shyt he was doing..one generation removed from slavery..dude led one of the more fascinating lives for any athlete..shyt in 2014 he still hasn't been pardoned from the crimes he so called committed from the unjust laws created by the govt for him in the 1910s..the days of him and ali are gone..and now who do we have thats a so called lightning rod for black boxers and racism? floyd mayweather :comeon::camby:

Absolutely... the bolded had me like :ohhh:... when the second part of the documentary came on, I told my moms to sit down and watch it with me. When she saw what he had been doing in the first part of the documentary, she was like "so when did they kill him?" :ld: It was unfathomable that a n1gga could have been living like he was back at that time without the white man trying to murk him... In fact, I read somewhere that Joe Louis was built up to be the anti-Jack Johnson; they told him not to be seen with white women, and basically trained him to be a harmless negro, comparatively speaking. And the government still got him in the end... :damn:
 

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In fact, I read somewhere that Joe Louis was built up to be the anti-Jack Johnson; they told him not to be seen with white women, and basically trained him to be a harmless negro, comparatively speaking. And the government still got him in the end... :damn:


yep.

joe louis' camp even rejected jack johnson's offer to help him train.

then jack johnson told the press that joe louis was gonna take that L, and told them exactly how he was going to lose...........and thats exactly what happened.
 

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yep.

joe louis' camp even rejected jack johnson's offer to help him train.

then jack johnson told the press that joe louis was gonna take that L, and told them exactly how he was going to lose...........and thats exactly what happened.

Jack was making em all mad... lol

From the SI vault:

Jack Johnson was facing an angry mob. During the turbulent years when he was the first black man to hold the heavyweight boxing championship, Johnson routinely fought surrounded by menacing white crowds. But on that June night in 1936, Johnson wasn't champion, and the mob wasn't white. Hours earlier, Joe Louis had been beaten by Germany's Max Schmeling at Yankee Stadium in New York City, sending many black Americans into shock. AsHarlem erupted in frustration and rage, Johnson roamed the neighborhood flaunting the money he had won betting against Louis. Now people wanted Jack Johnson's blood.

"That Joe has a lot to learn," Johnson had said. Louis, he claimed, was a "mechanical fighter" who didn't know how to think in the ring, a "clumsy greenhorn" with an "off-balance stance." And Johnson had continually pointed out the flaw that had proved to be Louis's undoing. " Louis holds his left too low," Johnson had warned before the Schmeling fight, "and the first fellow who makes him step back and then throws a right at his chin will knock him out."

That was exactly the tactic that Schmeling used to send Louis to the canvas three times. Although the German had detected Louis's vulnerability on his own, Johnson viewed the victory as vindication of his own boxing genius. Harlemites, already stung by Louis's defeat, were infuriated by Johnson's bragging. It didn't take long for a mob to form, with Johnson as its target. Mercifully, the police intervened and rescued Johnson.
 
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