Why Education Does Not Fix Poverty

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Why Education Does Not Fix Poverty


.....2. It Didn't Work

Since 1991, we have done precisely what the education-focused poverty people said to do. Between 1991 and 2014, we steadily reduced the share of adults in the "less than high school" and "high school" bins and increased the share of adults in every other bin:
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By 2014, the share of adults in the "less than high school" bin declined 9 points from 20.6% to 11.6%. The share of adults in the "high school" bin declined 6.5 points from 36% to 29.5%. Meanwhile, the share of adults with an Associate degree went up 3.9 points, the share with a Bachelor's degree went up 8.3 points, and the share with a post-Bachelor's degree went up 4.8 points.
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If the poverty rates for each educational bin remained the same, then the upward redistribution of adults from the lower bins to the higher bins would have led to lower overall poverty. But that's not what happened.

Instead, the poverty rate for each educational bin went up over this time and overall poverty didn't decline at all. In fact it went up.
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By 2014, the "less than high school" poverty rate had increased 3.7 points. The "high school" poverty rate increased 4.6 points. "Some college" went up 4.1 points, "associate" went up 3.8 points, "bachelor's" went up 2.1 points, and "post-bachelor's" went up 1.7. Despite the educational gains, overall adult poverty in 2014 was actually 1.1 points higher than in 1991.
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As the adults migrated up the educational bins, it took the poverty into the higher educational bins with them:
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Over this period, the share of poor adults with "less than high school" education plummeted 20.1 points from 48.3 points to 28.2 points. Every other educational bin saw share gains of 2.6 to 5 points.
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Adults these days are as educated as they have ever been, but poverty is no lower than it was in 1991. This is not because the few lingering people with "less than high school" have soaked up all the poverty. Quite the contrary: poverty has simply moved up the educational scale. The poor in 2014 were the most educated poor in history.

3. Why It Doesn't Work

There are a number reasons why aggregate education gains do not necessarily translate into aggregate poverty declines. I will discuss three here.

First, handing out more high school and college diplomas doesn't magically create more good-paying jobs. When more credentials are chasing the same number of decent jobs, what you get is credential inflation: jobs that used to require a high school degree now require a college degree; jobs that used to require an Associate degee now require a Bachelor's degreee; and so on. Obviously the supply of good-paying jobs is not a fixed constant of nature, but there is no reason to think that the supply will automatically go up to match the number of people with the necessary credentials. The types of jobs available in a society, and their level of compensation, is determined by many factors (demand, worker power, technology, global competition, natural resources, etc.) that have little to do with the number of degrees that society is minting.

Second, having more education does not necessarily increase people's productive capacity. Those in the know will identify this as the old "signaling v. human capital" point. The short of it is that, even if jobs did automatically pop into existence to match people's level of productive ability, it's not at all clear that college education necessarily does a lot to increase people's productive ability. Instead, what college education does (at least in part) is signal to employers that you have a certain level of relative "quality" over others in society. As more people get degrees, the value of this signal declines, but more importantly, the point is that the degree was always a signal, not a productivity enhancer.

Third, poverty is really about non-working people: children, elderly, disabled, students, carers, and the unemployed. The big things that cause poverty for adults over the age of 25 in a low-welfare capitalist society—old-age, disability, unemployment, having children—do not go away just because you have a better degree. These poverty-inducing circumstances are social constants that could strike anyone of us and do strike many of us at some point in our lives. To the extent that education does nothing to provide better income support for those who do find themselves in these vulnerable situations, its effect on overall poverty levels will always be weak, or, as with the US in the last 23 years, totally nonexistent.....
 

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Education brings greater financial literacy, and with greater financial literacy, you have a better chance of poverty.
Education is usually the barrier to higher paying jobs. You aren't going to make six figures as an engineer, architect, doctor, lawyer, banker, accountant, consultant, or even a government worker unless you have a Bachelor's degree minimum.
This also misses out on a lot of outside variables: from the state of the economy as a whole, to the lack of substantial growth in the military-industrial complex, the outsourcing of jobs, and the poor choice of major in college + lack of internships/job experience
There's a lot more to it than this. People also don't want to move across the country to get jobs, so there may be plenty of jobs, and just a lack of qualified people in the area to accept them.
 

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It's not just about a damn piece of fukking paper.

It's about developing critical thinking skills
It's about learning to retain information
It's about gaining knowlege in general.


Education in this country has been reduced to standardized tests, teacher unions, federal aid and fights over how to find everything.
 

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It's not just about a damn piece of fukking paper.

It's about developing critical thinking skills
It's about learning to retain information
It's about gaining knowlege in general.


Education in this country has been reduced to standardized tests, teacher unions, federal aid and fights over how to find everything.
Do you have any evidence supporting the claim that education does in fact fix poverty?:ld:
 

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Third, poverty is really about non-working people: children, elderly, disabled, students, carers, and the unemployed. The big things that cause poverty for adults over the age of 25 in a low-welfare capitalist society—old-age, disability, unemployment, having children—do not go away just because you have a better degree. These poverty-inducing circumstances are social constants that could strike anyone of us and do strike many of us at some point in our lives. To the extent that education does nothing to provide better income support for those who do find themselves in these vulnerable situations, its effect on overall poverty levels will always be weak, or, as with the US in the last 23 years, totally nonexistent.....

Old age - Everyone gets old
Disability - Unfortunately, some people are born with or develop disabilities

Unemployment - that's always going to exist but the better qualified you are, the more connections you've developed, the smarter you are, the less likely you are to be unemployed for an extended period of time
Having Children - More educated people have less children

Education helps in two of the 4 causes stated in the OP.
 

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Do you have any evidence supporting the claim that education does in fact fix poverty?:ld:
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Article is a classic "correlation for causation" confusion. There are other factors at play that are increasing the poverty rate. But as the article's own data shows, a great way to lower your odds of being poor are to educate yourself :francis:
 

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The article: "Educated people are less poor than uneducated people."
This article: "Education doesn't solve poverty."
I think after hundreds of years of Capitalism it would be rather obvious that poverty cannot be eliminated, unless the economic system changes. This is obvious regardless of whether or not you're a Capitalist, Anarchist, Socialist, or Communist.
Education can significantly lower poverty rates in different groups provided that there is an inclusive political and economic system in the state.
 
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