Why every Country Ends up eventually becoming Capitalist

Gritsngravy

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So why aren't the things named in the post Capitalism?

Explain in detail
You deflecting, Tax credits, Business Loans, Real Estate Opportunity Zones, Business Credit, Business entities to great Private Equity Funds, Life Insurance

This ain’t taking advantage of capitalism, some of it is using gov programs for tax relief, mostly designed for corporations

And I don’t know how insurance is supposed to be taking advantage of capitalism, so you hope somebody you related to put you in a policy where you can get some money when they die and let em guess you saying use that money to start a business, do y’all not think about the shyt y’all be writing, like yall be worst than the people who say there shouldn’t be billionaires and yall don’t even see it

You be blaming everybody else but you the main reason why ain’t no mature conversations about economic systems
 

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Capitalism can’t work unless the capital is spread equally. If people are rigging the market and obsessively trying to impoverish, poison, and straight up murder entire groups of people, then the market will always explode on itself.

I’m a capitalist myself being a contract worker, but the way this country is ran, it’s obvious it’s only like 40% capitalist and 60% corporate tyrannical
 

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Because natural resources aren't equally distributed throughout the world and Capitalism thrives off trade, capitalist countries have colonialized or sanctioned any non-capitalist countries with natural resources to force trade. Thus the historic rise in capitalist countries. I always ask Milton Friedman stans, what's the market solution for a lack of natural resources? It's war.

It's a tough conversation to have with Americans given that the Republican party has convinced a large chunk of the US population that European countries like Sweden, Norway, or Russia aren't capitalist countries. While China has a socialist government, it's economy is capitalist in nature.
 

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Because natural resources aren't equally distributed throughout the world and Capitalism thrives off trade, capitalist countries have colonialized or sanctioned any non-capitalist countries with natural resources to force trade. Thus the historic rise in capitalist countries. I always ask Milton Friedman stans, what's the market solution for a lack of natural resources? It's war.

It's a tough conversation to have with Americans given that the Republican party has convinced a large chunk of the US population that European countries like Sweden, Norway, or Russia aren't capitalist countries. While China has a socialist government, it's economy is capitalist in nature.

You actually answered your own question and indirectly agreed with the OP post. Capitalism exists around you whether you want to partake in it or not. It's not about "stans" or "non-stans". It's about reality of the situation. Governments/Nations use Capitalism as the law of the land and their language to interact with each other. On top of that, this system predates America and is not a product of this country

- Creation of Double Entry Accounting started in the late 1400s
- First Bank started in the late 1400s
- The Spanish Inquisition which sparked the Age of Exploration started in the late 1400s
- Usury/Lending is actually more than 2000 years old
- The First Corporation started in 1600
- The Insurance industry started in the late 1400s


You can divulge yourself in stan wars about which Economic system you love the best, or you can learn how Capitalism works. The choice is yours
 

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Nah the real reason is because of they don't,They will get sanctioned, left economically isolated from the capitalist Nazi's of the world and possibly get invaded

Anytime someone brings up countries like Cuba and Venezuela as examples of failed economic policy/ideology, I always ask, his their failure organic or a result of economic embargoes and foreign intervention

It's always insane to me how the US and it's allies have the gall to dictate to other sovereign nations how to run their own country and economy.

I remain unconvinced that socialism is this Boogeyman and capitalism is the GOAT until a socialist country is giving a fair shake and not bullied,meddled with and systemically cut off from the rest of the world

They have made sure you can't beat them using embargoes,cia coup, military invasion etc so you might as well join them
Man's got ETHER in his name.........and he right right........America has destabilized countries over bananas and coffee...........bananas and coffee brehs.........to this day those countries are still fukked to this day........and that's just agricultural beef not including with high value resources
 

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Capitalism is an economic cheat code. Private ownership will always prosper because owners are willing to put in the extra work. State owned resources do not get that additional effort.
 

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Capitalism addresses the reality that we have We have unlimited desires but limited resources. It answers 3 questions.. 1) What should be produced? , 2) How should it be produced? , 3) Who should it be produced for?
Let's not forget how the capitalist nations dropped bombs, disease, chemical weapons, and economic contagion on anyone who tried a different system.


Everyone is capitalist purely because of the big capitalist bullies in the west.

@bnew is correct about the coersion.


It's kind of a joke how we expect a man to be competitive when he gets beat with union jack colored club or a red white and blue croissant, or a bald eagle shaped bat every time he tries to stand up .




I guess we're just gonna ignore all the state sabotage and assassinations :skip:
Nonsense. :troll:


Clearly Patrice Lumumba's socialist congo failed cause of the lack of personal ownership and the stifling of the business class. Not because of the bullets they fired at him. Those were coincidences . :troll:
 
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I generally support capitalism with government supervision on things that impact the health and well being of citizens. So regulating pollution, monopolies, healthcare, and education. There may be more stipulations, but those are easy ones to name.
 

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The video doesn't live up to the promise of the title, and instead ducks questions and offers a very scholarly idea of capitalism.
  • "Best way to distribute scarce resources..."
  • "Doesn't always work"
  • "Of course there are excesses"
  • Disclaimer " I am a blood sucking landlord"
It's standard apologia. He's probably not even aware that he's a propagandist.

Cats should really do better if they want to attack or defend these institutions.
 

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Let's not forget how the capitalist nations dropped bombs, disease, chemical weapons, and economic contagion on anyone who tried a different system.


Everyone is capitalist purely because of the big capitalist bullies in the west.

@bnew is correct about the coersion.


It's kind of a joke how we expect a man to be competitive when he gets beat with union jack colored club or a red white and blue croissant, or a bald eagle shaped bat every time he tries to stand up .





Nonsense. :troll:


Clearly Patrice Lumumba's socialist congo failed cause of the lack of personal ownership and the stifling of the business class. Not because of the bullets they fired at him. Those were coincidences . :troll:



Red, white, and blue coincidences made in Texas and Brussels.:troll:


This is a sensationalist argument, I hope you're not serious with this comment lol. Anything can be sensationalized if you try hard enough

1. If we empirically have a ratio of the average Capitalistic interactions/events to the events you mentioned in your post, it would overwhelmingly outweigh the events you mentioned

2. Most of the horrific events in history are the cause of Monarchy, Socialist, or Communist interactions, but somehow get painted as a "product of Capitalism". Isn't that funny

3. Most of the arguments against Capitalism never address the efficiency compared to other economic systems. When it comes to an individual gaining wealth and resources for their own economic autonomy, no other Economic system comes even close
 

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@UpAndComing , I apologize. I was about type a thesis paper in the comments. :snoop:


I think I was a bit too invested in this. I doubt there is anything I can say that will convince you and vice versa for you unto me. So I'll just stop here and enjoy my Saturday.




Have a good weekend Breh. Good luck in the office next week:salute:
 
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@UpAndComing , I apologize. I was about type a thesis paper in the comments.

Just want to know. How is a Capitalist country with Small Businesses (majority being 1 Individual employee businesses) responsible for employing 46% of the entire workforce, and responsible for creating 66% of new jobs added not efficient?
 
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