Why exactly should Palestine vs. Israel define the 2028 primary?

[Hood Critic]

ok, let's say Shapiro doesn't have a shot in 2028. i've made an ample case for why i want to nominate him, but sure, maybe he goes nowhere in 2028. i have no idea

who do you want to run? who does the far left want to run? who has the best shot at winning the electoral college?

Your case for his nomination actually speaks more to why he's more needed where he is.

I'm not 100% confident in any of our bench right now. If it was a perfect world, I wouldn't be mad at JB getting the nod but he's seeing his first unfavorability ratings with IL citizens over taxes - that's not going to translate well on the national stage.

Gavin is almost certainly getting the look in 2028, like it or not. He's got upside but I fear his biggest weakness, just like Obama, is that he will allow his desire to be bi-partisan and reach across the aisle stifle what he can accomplish.

 

[the cac mamba]

I think saner minds would call this not precommitting to support a candidate without knowing what they're running on, but I can understand that for someone like you for whom discussing actual policy is above your cognitive paygrade it seems silly to not boil it down to which person is going to activate your latent desire for a strong father to defend you against your own fears.

Shapiro's record is winning in PA on his platform, you weird european fakkit

 

[the cac mamba]

Your case for his nomination actually speaks more to why he's more needed where he is.

he's not a senator that's why i think Wes is a good VP, too. i don't think he has any Senate race in his sights in Maryland? the party doesn't "lose" shapiro or moore like they'd lose ruben gallego, or some of these other swing state guys

I'm not 100% confident in any of our bench right now. If it was a perfect world, I wouldn't be mad at JB getting the nod but he's seeing his first unfavorability ratings with IL citizens over taxes - that's not going to translate well on the national stage.

Gavin is almost certainly getting the look in 2028, like it or not. He's got upside but I fear his biggest weakness, just like Obama, is that he will allow his desire to be bi-partisan and reach across the aisle stifle what he can accomplish.

if we were gonna nominate the governor of CA, IL, or PA, that doesn't seem like any choice to me at all. but hey, something something IDF

i actually agree with you that Newsom is gonna get it i've been saying it since last year. he's the obvious front runner, and has the big money behind him. i just think it's an awful decision to let 2028 become a California-bash fest. Fox News is SALIVATING at a newsom nomination

 

[Outlaw]

I'll humor you.

Buttigieg, AOC, Shapiro, Beshear... No

Newsom, Whitmer, Gallego, Murphy... Any of these I'd be fine with

I'm also certain a name we aren't looking at yet will come out of the bushes and be a serious contender in the primaries, similar to how Obama was the outsider in 2005-06.

Similar to the voters who wouldn't vote for a gay man (that you completely understand), I have my red lines. Unfortunately for you, Israel is one of them. Israel lover? Forget it, they'll have to make do without my vote.

Newsom?

Why Newsom?

 

[the cac mamba]

He's polling much better and has more visibility currently. Shapiro looks... timid, just going with the flow?

this could backfire. Newsom is way too eager about it, and the election's not for 3 years. the "mocking Trump" shyt is already played out. he might get played out in general, or fukk up and gaffe in like early 2026

whereas Shapiro is biding his time, and letting the momentum of winning in 2026 speak for him. we're still a LONG way from early 2027

I do know that if Newsom makes it they will hammer him hard on homelessness and COL and taxes in California. He better have a story that sticks, otherwise it's President Vance. I don't think Shapiro has that baggage, but IMO he doesn't have the IT factor. Yet, at least.

i don't disagree but after seeing those Shapiro performances for Kamala, i'm not worried there

Truth be told I'm not too impressed by the field in general, which is why it's open for an outsider to take the horns and win this with the right energy, words and policy

agree with this as well. just feel like it's unlikely that we don't know who the nom is right now. sure, maybe someone comes completely outta left field

 

[Loose]

@the cac mamba can you explain to me your love for shapiro I honestly dont get it lol. Is it because he tried to steal Obama flow? Im legit perplexed why he has stans. Then again you liked desantis. He's like 11th in governor net approval he not even liked like that lol

 

[the cac mamba]

@the cac mamba can you explain to me your love for shapiro

yeah, he wins in the most important swing state in the country. something your slate of lunatic trans communists would know nothing about. he's also a confident speaker, family man, the right age, all that generic shyt that makes him a plausible nominee

you'd have more credibility, if instead of crying about Shapiro, you'd just say who the Dems should run instead. your commentary is useless if you can't provide your own alternatives

what's most likely to happen is that you just complain about the entire field, then find a reason not to vote for the eventual nominee, and sit out the election because they aren't far left enough

 

[Loose]

yeah, he wins in the most important swing state in the country. something your slate of lunatic trans communists would know nothing about. he's also a confident speaker, family man, the right age, all that generic shyt that makes him a plausible nominee

you'd have more credibility, if instead of crying about Shapiro, you'd just say who the Dems should run instead. your commentary is useless if you can't provide your own alternatives

what's most likely to happen is that you just complain about the entire field, then find a reason not to vote for the eventual nominee, and sit out the election because they aren't far left enough

Going by this white man friendly logic we should run Jon ossoff, maybe you like the fact he was a IDF solider who possibly covered up a murder ? Or the fact he wants the right for white kids to go to expensive schools on pas dime? Idk

 

[the cac mamba]

Going by this white man friendly logic we should run Jon ossoff

sure, if you'd rather give up a Senate seat that almost certainly goes to a Republican i like Ossoff

i don't see the Democrats with a hell of a lot of room to give up purple Senate seats these days, but hey. we've established that you love giving up Senate seats to Republicans, given how pleased you were with Manchin being replaced with Jim Justice

 

[Pressure]

It shouldn't.

I'm.sure corruption, the economy, price of goods and Healthcare with be the drivers

 

[Conan]

Newsom?

Why Newsom?

He's the only Democrat official (maybe JB in Illinois qualifies) that looks like he has the ability to take the fight to the other side

My list is preliminary, will know more after the midterms

 

[King Kreole]

Shapiro's record is winning in PA on his platform, you weird european fakkit

You really have no principles or policy cares, huh. "oh oh oh but he won his state so who cares what his platform is, it's a winning platform!" idiocracy ass mf sit down

 

[King Kreole]

he's also a confident speaker, family man, the right age, all that generic shyt that makes him a plausible nominee

Buddy's brain is completely fried on that Sorkin shyt

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Shapiro's record is winning in PA on his platform, you weird european fakkit

Do you remember who he was running against? You and I have had this same conversation like three times.

You dont get points for beating one of the worst gubernatorial nominees in modern history. Doug Mastriano was an absolute asaclown, we haven't seen him run a gubernatorial race against a legitimate candidate.

 

[the cac mamba]

Do you remember who he was running against? You and I have had this same conversation like three times.

You dont get points for beating one of the worst gubernatorial nominees in modern history. Doug Mastriano was an absolute asaclown, we haven't seen him run a gubernatorial race against a legitimate candidate.

as of right now, i see Shapiro and Newsom as the two legitimate candidates who can win the EC unlike you, i venture outside of hard left Bluesky, and i see Republicans talk about Shapiro; they're scared of him. they say things like "luckily the Dems are too dumb to nominate him, and the far left will never nominate a Jew"

but you're another clown who won't simply name who you want to run, so feel free to do that