Why has Jay's and Wayne's disses towards each other been so horribly weak?

[King Karim]

2 of the more talented emcees in the game w/o a doubt but their verbal warfare thus far has been a Zzzzzfest

 

[Real]

This whole fictional tale of Beyonce getting kidnapped is pure comedy....in the terrible way.

 

[King Karim]

This whole fictional tale of Beyonce getting kidnapped is pure comedy....in the terrible way.

and Hov could have hit him with the haymaker on this album but he failed

his reply was just as bad

great album however

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I don't listen to Wayne, what'd he say abt jay? And what did jay say in this album? What they beefing over?

 

[SunZoo]

It's because it's a handicap match, wayne is wack as fukk. Too wack to actually come with a decent diss, and he's too wack to dedicate an actual death blow to...

This is why jay is trying to bait him IMO, he want's wayne to respond so that he can REALLY respond. He wants him to say something he can't really back off from. I mean nikkas are gonna have something to say about what jay says/does either way but it's gonna be a lot of "this nikka old/bitter for taking that shyt to heart".

Trust me..if wayne says something there will be a full track. In fact i'd be willing to bet it's already one made, but it may look kinda bully-ish to basically call this nikka a washed up drug addict/stan/molestee all in one track over a little pitty pat line that can be explained away with "I was so wasted when I said that".

 

[Lucky Millionaire]

Cause there's no real hate behind them, just mild bravado and/or boredom

 

[King Karim]

It's because it's a handicap match, wayne is wack as fukk. Too wack to actually come with a decent diss, and he's too wack to dedicate an actual death blow to...

This is why jay is trying to bait him IMO, he want's wayne to respond so that he can REALLY respond. I mean nikkas are gonna have something to say about what jay says/does either way but it's gonna be a lot of "this nikka old/bitter for taking that shyt to heart".

Trust me..if wayne says something there will be a full track. In fact i'd be willing to bet it's already one made, but it may look kinda bully-ish to basically call this nikka a washed up drug addict/stan/molestee all in one track over a little pitty pat line that can be explained away with "I was so wasted when I said that".

i can't say i agree it's a handicap match simply b/c Jay isn't really battle tested. he didn't fair well with Nas, and I actually think the Dipset got the best of him on wax b/c he was spitting weak stuff at them too


Jay is a superior rap artist compared to Wayne but a full fledged battle is more of Wayne's strong points as it is closer to his normal style.


i kinda think they both are a lil scared to take it there

 

[SunZoo]

i can't say i agree it's a handicap match simply b/c Jay isn't really battle tested. he didn't fair well with Nas, and I actually think the Dipset got the best of him on wax b/c he was spitting weak stuff at them too


Jay is a superior rap artist compared to Wayne but a full fledged battle is more of Wayne's strong points as it is closer to his normal style.


i kinda think they both are a lil scared to take it there

It's like watching two bytch made nikkas bump chests and circle each other. Thing is I don't think jay is scared, I just think he wants more of a reason to go in on him because he has more potent ammo than pretend scenarios about kidnapping people. If you're gonna go in the bag and talk about dude being a junkie and a bunch of other actual substantial points that he could be broken down with...you should probably make it look like he deserves it.

Ain't shyt wayne could say to put a dent in what jay is doing, meanwhile he looks like he's ending his own career, full on kicking him while he's down wouldn't be a great look unless he can get him to say something more blatant.

 

[ISO]

Because they are both

 

[Tony D'Amato]

So you consider Wayne talented? Noted

 

[King Karim]

It's like watching two bytch made nikkas bump chests and circle each other. Thing is I don't think jay is scared, I just think he wants more of a reason to go in on him because he has more potent ammo than pretend scenarios about kidnapping people. If you're gonna go in the bag and talk about dude being a junkie and a bunch of other actual substantial points that he could be broken down with...you should probably make it look like he deserves it.

Ain't shyt wayne could say to put a dent in what jay is doing, meanwhile he looks like he's ending his own career, full on kicking him while he's down wouldn't be a great look unless he can get him to say something more blatant.

Wayne could be creative with Jay. just like Jay with Wayne. thing is with Wayne everything Jay could use Wayne has already put it out there, so really there won't be any surprises or nothing no one else has said about Wayne already from the kissing, to the leggings, even being a 'so called blood'. all stuff we have heard numerous times or things Wayne readily admits or put out there on purpose himself

 

[King Karim]

So you consider Wayne talented? Noted

hell yea! whether you like him or not he is a talented artist.

 

[Digga38]

So you consider Wayne talented? Noted

Lets not forget Wayne held the crown for a few years

 

[AveRocca]

The weird thing is the shyt actually started off pretty strong too.

Wayne

[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f9OG37OwC9U]Lil Wayne-Beat without bass - YouTube[/ame]

Jay

[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K_90jQftxgc]Jay Z - Watch What You Say - YouTube[/ame]



Downhill from there though.

 

[vaudevillevillain]

Wayne was lyrically buried after H.A.M.