Why has Mo Williams been a better PG for the Cavs than Kyrie Irving?

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swagnificant you're not making enough threads if you want this 3peat breh. eye cue trying to run away with WOAT. :wow:
He stood up for Greg hardy and Darren sharper, made a thread suggesting the analytics movement was meant to force black people out of basketball, and stayed making pedo threads. He leads still
 

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This time last year they were a team with new pieces :wtf:

Love was also out of shape and admitted as much, as seen by the fact he was averaging 17ppg to start last season then started trailing off the more the season went on. Right this second Love is shooting a lower percentage from the field than he was with Kyrie at the same time last year :stopitslime:

If you think this team can win a title with Mo Williams starting at PG you're out of your mind, he's going to be a dangerous weapon off the bench for them but they need Kyrie because he gives them a dynamic edge not a lot of teams have.
Love wasn't out of shape last year... but whatever. Even this year he's coming off shoulder surgery.

So what?

He needs to be the second option on the team. Ball moves better that way.

Why are you arguing this? Team is 7-1. Proof is in the pudding.
 

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Love wasn't out of shape last year...
In truth, James was frustrated in part because Love showed up out of shape. He didn’t work out much at all the summer he was traded here and he wasn’t the player James was expecting. His legs bothered him all season. His back was hurting. All of the parts were connected and none of them were firing properly.

James loves talent and he loves playing with elite talent. Love’s physical condition prevented him from being the player James thought he was getting.



So what?

He needs to be the second option on the team. Ball moves better that way.

Why are you arguing this? Team is 7-1. Proof is in the pudding.


:wtf:

I said that Love should be the second option a long time ago, but sitting here and acting like they don't need Kyrie is retarded. Also, the Cavs were 66-16 with Mo at one point, he couldn't create in the playoffs and well you know the rest......
 

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I said that Love should be the second option a long time ago, but sitting here and acting like they don't need Kyrie is retarded. Also, the Cavs were 66-16 with Mo at one point, he couldn't create in the playoffs and well you know the rest......
You issue about Love being out of shape is irrelevant to thread, which I already told you.

When Cavs went 66-16, did they have Love? The answer is obvious
 

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54% of his shots are assisted, if you think they can win a title with 1 creator on the entire team....:russ:

Once the playoffs roll around you need dynamic players, as good as Mo has been he cannot create for himself while Kyrie is an elite shot creator.

This time last year Kyrie was averaging 21/5/5 on 47% and 46% from 3, all while creating a lot of offense for himself. The Cavs don't need a traditional PG, they need LeBron to play that role while Kyrie is basically a scorer & part time facilitator.

52 % OF HIS SHOTS ARE ASSISTED...
WHICH ISNT BAD PLAYING WITH BRON...

SECONDLY
WHAT WAS IT LAST YEAR?
WHAT WAS IT IN 07 AND 08
BACK TO BACK 17PPG SEASONS IN MILWAUKEE?
Astd on 38% IN 07 45%fg 35% 3P
Astd on 34% IN 08 48%fg 39%3P
SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER...

SAYING HE CANT CREATE HIS OWN SHOT IS A FARCE...
UNLIKE KYRIE, HE ADJUSTS HIS GAME WHEN HE PLAYS WITH BRON....

DUKE HAD A 50 PT GAME LAST YEAR
BUT HE CANT CREATE HIS OWN SHOT?
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52 % OF HIS SHOTS ARE ASSISTED...
WHICH ISNT BAD PLAYING WITH BRON...

SECONDLY
WHAT WAS IT LAST YEAR?
WHAT WAS IT IN 07 AND 08
BACK TO BACK 17PPG SEASONS IN MILWAUKEE?
Astd on 38% IN 07 45%fg 35% 3P
Astd on 34% IN 08 48%fg 39%3P
SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER...

SAYING HE CANT CREATE HIS OWN SHOT IS A FARCE...
UNLIKE KYRIE, HE ADJUSTS HIS GAME WHEN HE PLAYS WITH BRON....

DUKE HAD A 50 PT GAME LAST YEAR
BUT HE CANT CREATE HIS OWN SHOT?
:devil:
:evil:



Your numbers are off, He's at .542% assisted this year.


Last year was 38% and he shot 40% as a result, Kyrie without LeBron is an elite level creator -

31% assisted shot 47%
31% assisted shot 46%
31% assisted shot 43%

Most importantly he can't create at an elite level and when the playoffs roll around his numbers take a nose dive while is rate of being assisted shoots up-

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Those are from his two playoff runs in Cleveland, when he just couldn't get his shot off at a high percentage off the dribble, he'll be 33 next month, they wont win a title with him starting at PG.
 

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This time last year they were a team with new pieces :wtf:

Love was also out of shape and admitted as much, as seen by the fact he was averaging 17ppg to start last season then started trailing off the more the season went on. Right this second Love is shooting a lower percentage from the field than he was with Kyrie at the same time last year :stopitslime:

If you think this team can win a title with Mo Williams starting at PG you're out of your mind, he's going to be a dangerous weapon off the bench for them but they need Kyrie because he gives them a dynamic edge not a lot of teams have.
What's crazy is Love is still averaging 17.4ppg as a second option this year. It's starting to look like Kyrie is a better scorer
 

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The Cavs at 100 are gonna be ridiculous, even Tristan is starting to add aspects of rim protection when playing C :oxy:

Kyrie
Shump
Bron
Love
Tristan

This lineup when healthy will absolutely smoke teams :raystop:
Too bad they have the most "will get injured" players in the NBA, Kyrie, Love, and Shump will probably all miss time again
 

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Stupid thread. Not only is Ky just a more skilled player, he also steps up in the playoffs, bron will have his shiitty games in the playoffs, Kyrie can carry him, Mo will not. Hes a good reg season fit tho. That shiit he did in game 1 of the finals on 1 fukkin knee told me everything about his character. Mo was stinkin it up vs. the magic, we aint forget.
 
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