Why hasn't Rap had a Classic album in the last 10 years?

[Piff Perkins]

If an album made it's mark, that's great, but if you don't even rock with it...what's the point?

I seriously have a feeling quite of a few of the albums people hold up in high regard, they don't even fukk with like that, they just say they do to roll with the "right opinions" that have already been pre-determined by somebody else

Dunno. Seems to me that only rap nerds really care about "classic" debates, whereas normal rap fans just call anything that's dope a classic ("that new Big Sean is classic!"). What albums do you think rap nerds just blindly call classic?


There are certainly albums that I don't fukk with but agree are classic, but that's just me being objective. I'm not pretend to like 808s and Heartbreaks...I think that shyt is wack. But is it a classic album? Yeah, for reasons stated previously.

 

[mobbinfms]

All the Clams Casino joints on it. His stuff is like a "spaced out" and NEW AGE version of them.

Are you being serious right now?
Bass sounds like a Mobb Deep or Wu-Tang beat to you?
Palace does?
I don't hear it at all.

Check out his Red Bull Music Academy interview. He talks about the influence they had on his beat making.

Yeah - I've heard all this before. But it doesn't translate to the music. And Genesis ain't exactly a quintessential Mobb beat.

 

[Metal Face]

Bass sounds like a Mobb Deep or Wu-Tang beat to you?
Palace does?

Of course. It's a much more relaxed version of them.

"Bass" to me has that gritty aesthetic to it. Similar to 36 Chambers, it's unpolished. Especially when you compare the finalized version of it on the mixtape to the official instrumental.



Also, like I said 0:03 has a similar sound to the beginning on "The Money".


How can you not hear this breh?
Almost everyone I've discussed this tape with has told me they get RZA/Havoc type vibes from it.

There's a reason why Yams the Mobb Deep stan sought out Clams in early 2011...he makes that new age Mobb Deep sounding shyt. It clearly does translate.

 

[mobbinfms]

Of course. It's a much more relaxed version of them.

So relaxed it becomes an entirely different thing :prodigylol:

Bass" to me has that gritty aesthetic to it. Similar to 36 Chambers, it's unpolished. Especially when you compare the finalized version of it on the mixtape to the official instrumental.

That's true
That mixtape does sound like shyt
It has that in common with 36. But the actual style of music is completely different to me
Plus there's all that mid 90s lo fi Memphis shyt. Nobody would claim that sounds like Wu or Mobb.

Also, like I said 0:03 has a similar sound to the beginning on "The Money".

I thought you said it was 17 seconds yesterday. I'll have to listen again later tonight.

How can you not hear this breh?

Because its not there to be heard :prodigylol:

Almost everyone I've discussed this tape with has told me they get RZA/Havoc type vibes from it.

What specifically? So far you've given me the 3 second mark of Bass and an unreleased Mobb song that didn't even surface until 2014.

There's a reason why Yams the Mobb Deep stan sought out Clams in early 2011...he makes that new age Mobb Deep sounding shyt.

That's not Mobb Deep sounding shyt. That's that crazy space shyt that don't even make no sense :pdahellclean:

 

[Metal Face]

So relaxed it becomes an entirely different thing

Not really. Stylistically Clams approaches what Mobb/Wu are trying to do. That haunting/gritty/nighttime vibe. I mean Clams isn't out here biting their style directly, he takes certain ideas from them and applies it to his beats. Beats that at the time sampled an untapped genre in hip hop (Dreampop) that give it that spacey feel.

This tape is mixed with all types of styles from different coasts...things from Mobb/Wu/36//Bone Thugs/Dipset etc.

I thought you said it was 17 seconds yesterday. I'll have to listen again later tonight.

Nah I'm giving you the time stamp for the instrumental this time.
Who cares if it dropped in 2014?...if anything that's even more crazy that it sounds pretty similar.

What specifically?

I'd say things from Hell on Earth. The vocal samples on songs like "Still Shinin'" and "Apostle's Warning" kind of remind me of the repeating vocals (or at least the idea of it does) on "Demons" & "Wassup" (Also this beat is almost G.O.D. Pt. III like)

If you don't hear it then
I can't change your mind.

 

[mobbinfms]

Not really. Stylistically Clams approaches what Mobb/Wu are trying to do. That haunting/gritty/nighttime vibe. I mean Clams isn't out here biting their style directly, he takes certain ideas from them and applies it to his beats. Beats that at the time sampled an untapped genre in hip hop (Dreampop) that give it that spacey feel.

This tape is mixed with all types of styles from different coasts...things from Mobb/Wu/36//Bone Thugs/Dipset etc.

Ok. I see what you mean by incorporating ideas or approaches. But I could never say that that mixtape has a Mobb/Wu sound to it.
I do see what you mean by incorporating ideas or elements though. Hell, even that vocal sample on Apostles Warning you're referencing is a

Spoiler: No snitching

Jackson 5

sample. So even though they took part of their music, you'd never say Mobb was the 1990s version of

Spoiler: still not snitching

Jackson 5

:prodigylol:

 

[Metal Face]

So even though they took part of their music, you'd never say Mobb was the 1990s version of

Spoiler: still not snitching

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I mean you wouldn't because

Spoiler: surprise surprise

Jackson 5 isn't hip hop.

It's just something they sampled. What I'm trying to say is that just like Mobb Deep used to sample certain vocals to make them sound spooky or euphoric in a way on their tracks, Clams is pretty much doing the same thing with vocal samples from artists like "Imogen Heap", or from songs like "Adiemus" & "Art of Noise".