Why is Al Sharpton suddenly getting all the juice?

[GMoney]

In fact, even now in 2019 she's constantly shytting on Coates and trying to make her name bigger by calling his out. You think Coates finds it necessary to talk about Yvette all the time? So who is mainstream again?

Not sure what you're going on about. Yvette (through a number of unforeseen events mind you) made the reparations conversation pop off during this election cycle. That's all. No one is taking away what Coates' did. It's Yvette's followers and those that follow new black media like Tariq and TBA that are behind this latest push, not Ta-Nehisi, whose only contribution in the last few months was to let AOC juelz on reparations and let his article be put front in center again by the "mainstream". Ta-Nehisi made it mainstream years ago, but this current push in the last few months is from the grassroots, from people that don't necessarily follow Ta-Nehisi or publications like The Atlantic. Just look at the language, rhetoric and the style of the people pushing it online and offline right now. How many regular people with camera phones were running up to politicians asking them about reparations. These are not Ta-Nehisi's followers. Certainly, Ta-Nehisi is not the reason Joy-Ann Reid is having N'Cobra spokespeople on her show. It's also not unreasonable to speculate that they would want Sharpton to run interference on this.

 

[feelosofer]

It's not that complicated. Al Sharpton in the eyes of most is the last civil rights civil rights leader of his generation. I know understand most people under 35 don't care for him but he holds a lot of power still in the Black community and he is still somewhat respected figure if not nationally, behind the scenes.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Hmm

 

[GMoney]

This is Joy Reid just one month ago, clearly aligning herself with Coates, N'COBRA, and HR40 and low-key calling out anyone who would cast shade on them like certain parties have.

Yeah, she's doing that because of the pressure Yvette put on her, that's who she's calling out

Also, you seem to be giving Yvette credit for N'COBRA being on Joy Reid when Yvette has repeatedly shytted on N'COBRA just recently. On the other hand, Joy Reid has talked about Coates repeatedly from 2014 until now, has interviewed him herself, and is obviously very familiar with him. But he doesn't get credit for moving her on the issue, Yvette somehow magically did it?

Um, N'COBRA is on Joy Reid precisely because Yvette and her followers have been shytting on them and Reid. They were put on to "take back the narrative of reparations". It's not about influencing Joy Reid's position on anything.

Like I've been pointing out, Yvette has 16,000 followers, and I'm sure some of them are particularly active and might run up with a camera phone, but no politician in the country is shook of someone whose main influence is just 16,000 dispersed followers. Every time Coates is on TV he's reaching more people than that, and he's reaching them on Black sites too, on twitter too.

Yvette's main audience is on YouTube where she has 60k+ followers, moreover, she and the reparations2020 conversation is being bolstered by people with larger followings than her like Tariq Nasheed.

The claim I responded to was that there is a big conspiracy to trot Al Sharpton out in order to shut down Yvette and company cause they scared the 2020 candidates on the reparations issue. That's a ridiculous narrative and it doesn't help anyone do this political thing better. It's also a confused narrative - just in this conversation, you have one person suggesting that Yvette gets credit for Harris being pro-reparations, and another person suggesting that Yvette gets credit for Harris getting shut down.

I don't really see a major narrative being spun in here, just conjecture that some of the rancor from the black community coming at the 2020 candidates (mucked up by Yvette and those in the new black media) might be a reason they would reach out to Al so that he could run interference. I also don't see the confusion over Harris. The new black media messed up her rollout which forced her to give lip service to supporting reparations.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Wow you’re really delusional

@For Da Bag dap fishing lost causers as well

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Um, N'COBRA is on Joy Reid precisely because Yvette and her followers have been shytting on them and Reid. They were put on to "take back the narrative of reparations". It's not about influencing Joy Reid's position on anything.

I might be a little lost so clarify for me first - do you think that N'COBRA being on Joy Reid is a good thing or a bad thing?

Yvette's main audience is on YouTube where she has 60k+ followers, moreover, she and the reparations2020 conversation is being bolstered by people with larger followings than her like Tariq Nasheed.

Tariq has an order of magnitude more followers than Yvette....and the idea that he has meaningful influence on anything political is regularly laughed at even here. Literally nobody I know in real life ever talks about Tariq's politics. I have never heard Tariq's positions on reparations or ADOS mentioned outside of the internet.

Even on the internet...I just typed tariq nasheed made reparations mainstream into google and my entire first page of results was tariq's own videos and a Coli post.

 

[GMoney]

I might be a little lost so clarify for me first - do you think that N'COBRA being on Joy Reid is a good thing or a bad thing?

It's not about it being good or bad. Joy-Ann Reid and her producer inadvertently propelled the ados conversation by slandering it on her show. N'COBRA and her conversations with Yvette on twitter is just damage control.

Tariq has an order of magnitude more followers than Yvette....and the idea that he has meaningful influence on anything political is regularly laughed at even here. Literally nobody I know in real life ever talks about Tariq's politics. I have never heard Tariq's positions on reparations or ADOS mentioned outside of the internet.

Even on the internet...I just typed tariq nasheed made reparations mainstream into google and my entire first page of results was tariq's own videos and a Coli post.

This means nothing. All of what you said is true, it still doesn't take away from Tariq being partly responsible for the reparations conversation in the last three months. That's the claim being made about this recent reps conversation. The fact that those in the new black media have less political weight has nothing to do with how this, or other conversations spring up. Not every conversation happens top-down or comes out of the establishment media.