Why is black lives matter targetting Sanders and not the GOP?

[dh86]

something isnt adding up....



This was the work of the Clinton machine....

BLM are investigating.

Shes playing dirty...it'll only be worse for her. This day and age, young folks are savvy with the internet, they will trace it back to her within an hour. She should chill and focus on her proposals, but I doubt it, shes desperate, she cant lose another election season.

Trump & Bush has the money to make it next years October surprise and make all blacks second guess voting for her

 

[dh86]

It seems The Democratic Party in particular and the Left in general are imploding. Their rabid social justice/identity politics faction is destroying them from the inside out. Hopefully this trend continues.

Not really, Dems nationwide are pushing more left, as Republicans are pushing more right. What's happening here is the democratic nominee with the most funds is fighting the maintain the status quo long enough for her to get the nomination. In the 90's Martin O'Malley would fit right in as a law and order Blue Dog Democrat. Now, he can't gain traction. Rahm Emanuel will find this out in 2020 or 2024. They are being eradicated. Hillary is the last of the bunch and even she is running from her 90's rhetoric.

 

[Madvillain]

I disagree with your equating sewer socialism with Democratic faux-leftism. The sewer socialists were mayors and city councilmen, they worked to improve their cities and largely succeeded. Socialism is a big tent and I find the sectarian disregard they were shown in their time and now to be counterproductive.

Checking the record instead rhetoric however, in Bernie's case... it's close to indistinguishable.

It's shortsighted to only talk to democrats because they're the only ones who could possibly care. The Civil Rights Act only passed due to bipartisan support. Obviously guys like Rand Paul and Mike Lee are open to ending mass incarceration and police militarization. The odds the democrats ever gain a supermajority without any wishy washy southern or plain state conservatives is nill. There needs to be a broad coalition. At the least you'd get a news cycle in conservative press and expose the racism of the GOP candidates.

Black people aren't about to start voting for Lee and Paul in enough numbers, there are enough non-starters/elements in base & platform for them to stop moving after certain points and I don't think we have the illusions about them we have about Bernie. But any flexing I think regardless of direct target as well as threats of withholding votes still forces these actors to listen to us and "bend" as far as they can without alienating whoever else. Bernie's honestly the guy we can push the farthest. I don't see us being able to push the GOP far enough on the whole. The contradictions don't really lie with them either.
I don't disagree about the Left building with libertarians on certain issues, though.

 

[The_Sheff]

What do you think more laws is going to do?
You cant force people to have a different opinion.

Case in point....the drug laws.
People like to forget that black politicians voted for them...and black people voted for those politicians.

Politics can only do so much.
The ball was dropped after the Civil Rights movement.

Its about self empowerment.

Thats a terrible case seeing as how the current president has spoken numerous times about wanting to change those and in fact has granted clemency to some inmates who were given harsh sentences due to those jacked up laws. Maybe if people got off their ass and put the right people in congress we could get those changed.

Good thing you werent around during the Civil Rights Movement. You on some ole "Well they still gonna be racist so we might as well not force them to remove separate but equal" bullshyt.

 

[Tate]

Black people aren't about to start voting for Lee and Paul in enough numbers, there are enough non-starters/elements in base & platform for them to stop moving after certain points and I don't think we have the illusions about them we have about Bernie. But any flexing I think regardless of direct target as well as threats of withholding votes still forces these actors to listen to us and "bend" as far as they can without alienating whoever else. Bernie's honestly the guy we can push the farthest. I don't see us being able to push the GOP far enough on the whole. The contradictions don't really lie with them either.
I don't disagree about the Left building with libertarians on certain issues, though.

I agree on the actual voting for Paul thing, but why not try to push him on these issues? This is a guy who'll be in the senate for 20 years. He won't ever be president but he's an important vote on any issue pertaining to police and prison going forward.

 

[Madvillain]

I agree on the actual voting for Paul thing, but why not try to push him on these issues?

All the different "Black" events he's been holding or attending, the notes he's hit on drug policy and mass incarceration and police violence and all that... All of these overtures I think suggest he's already being pushed.

 

[Tate]

All the different "Black" events he's been holding or attending, the notes he's hit on drug policy and mass incarceration and police violence and all that... All of these overtures I think suggest he's already being pushed.

Then why not push Jeb? He's all about expanding the party. Or Marco Rubio? He's talking about a new world, why not one without mass incarceration? Ted Cruz? He's got some(by reputation) libertarian leanings. John Kasich? Another expand the brand, compassionate conservative guy. shyt, why not Ben Carson or Chris Christie?

 

[Madvillain]

How new is this?

Bernie Sanders on Racism and Racial Justice

yesterday

vs.

today

https://www.thestranger.com/blogs/s...es-disappointed-by-seattle-rally-interruption

 

[Street Knowledge]

The Bernie sanders Campaign is attempting to win back the white working class vote(particularly male) and if your going to do that you can't talk about anything that is seen as a "black" issue because it becomes an instant turnoff.

 

[Tate]

The Bernie sanders Campaign is attempting to win back the white working class vote(particularly male) and if your going to do that you can't talk about anything that is seen as a "black" issue because it becomes an instant turnoff.

This is an underrated aspect of his problems here, which is incredibly unfortunate given that everything he's hit on to address the white working class is an even larger issue in the black community. A lotta black lives matter people where on Twitter upset over him agreeing to go to Liberty to speak. Identity politics suck.

 

[the cac mamba]

so if not bernie, then...who?

 

[jilla82]

Thats a terrible case seeing as how the current president has spoken numerous times about wanting to change those and in fact has granted clemency to some inmates who were given harsh sentences due to those jacked up laws. Maybe if people got off their ass and put the right people in congress we could get those changed.

Good thing you werent around during the Civil Rights Movement. You on some ole "Well they still gonna be racist so we might as well not force them to remove separate but equal" bullshyt.

Civil Rights movement and now are totally different.

CR movement was about letting us be apart of the game.
Thats why marching etc... worked then.
Now its all about competing.

Notice how 90% of the black activism is about black criminals...when we need to be more worried about getting a class of black people in every city that has their own. And like I said before...those bogus laws we always talk about arent just because of white folks...there are a lot of black politicians that ran on "tougher on crime" that said they were going to do it...and people voted for it.
Let be honest...do you really think the people as a whole really know what they need?
How many people are really making strides w/ their own life?

Using a politician as an example of "see we need to change minds" is hogwash...because I dont care how liberal you are, you have to know politicians will do and say anything to appease their group.
Barak as no choice...as soon as he says anything towards black folks yall call him a c00n and sellout.

for black folks...politics is a send off.
How many Asian politicians do you see?

You can only make strides until you have a base w/ $$$...why do you think gay rights moved so fast? Its not because people are so understanding...gays have money...and they are everywhere where it matters

 

[Madvillain]

so if not bernie, then...who?

and come general time, it'll be "if not Hillary, then who?"

 

[BaggerofTea]

Civil Rights movement and now are totally different.

CR movement was about letting us be apart of the game.
Thats why marching etc... worked then.
Now its all about competing.

Notice how 90% of the black activism is about black criminals...when we need to be more worried about getting a class of black people in every city that has their own. And like I said before...those bogus laws we always talk about arent just because of white folks...there are a lot of black politicians that ran on "tougher on crime" that said they were going to do it...and people voted for it.
Let be honest...do you really think the people as a whole really know what they need?
How many people are really making strides w/ their own life?

Using a politician as an example of "see we need to change minds" is hogwash...because I dont care how liberal you are, you have to know politicians will do and say anything to appease their group.
Barak as no choice...as soon as he says anything towards black folks yall call him a c00n and sellout.

for black folks...politics is a send off.
How many Asian politicians do you see?

You can only make strides until you have a base w/ $$$...why do you think gay rights moved so fast? Its not because people are so understanding...gays have money...and they are everywhere where it matters

Boom

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]