Why is ESPN still dikkriding Jordan after all these years?

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This was 1989....he was already a media darling.

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I can post a link of S.I. clowning him for playing baseball.. What does that really prove?

Anyway wasn't Sam Smith a member of the media?
 

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I can post a link of S.I. clowning him for playing baseball.. What does that really prove?

Anyway wasn't Sam Smith a member of the media?

You talking about Mike playing baseball proves nothing.

I'm telling you that overall, there wasn't this "selfish" sentiment around MJ. People were celebrating his dominance 90% of the time because there was nothing like it.
 

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I don't consider that making money. They more than likely lost out on more dollars in that agreement because they came in with poorer numbers after MJ left. So while they made money, they could have possibly made more but lost that viewer leverage in negotiating for a new TV deal. So bringing that up is a moot point.

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You don't give a fukk about this sentence from my last post huh?
However, despite the declining TV ratings in the early 2000s (decade) and moderate ratings after, NBA's television audience is often younger, and thus very attractive to advertisers.

You like 'I'ma ignore that and keep saying the NBA lost money without posting any figures that back my statement up'.
I sourced the same article you did. Let it go.
 

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:smugdraper: ..........................

You don't give a fukk about this sentence from my last post huh?
However, despite the declining TV ratings in the early 2000s (decade) and moderate ratings after, NBA's television audience is often younger, and thus very attractive to advertisers.

You like 'I'ma ignore that and keep saying the NBA lost money without posting any figures that back my statement up'.
I sourced the same article you did. Let it go.

Dog....they could have leveraged for more money had their numbers had not fallen.

But I should have corrected myself in saying they lost viewers.
 

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:rudy: @ nikkas acting like mike wasn't getting shytted on back in the day for his scoring

this story is from a article in dec 87

NBA.com: Michael Jordan Career Retrospective


With Jordan grounded for 64 regular season games the previous year because of a broken navicular tarsal bone in his left foot, the Bulls finished 30-52 and made a token playoff appearance. With Jordan healthy, they got out of the gate deceptively fast. But it wasn't long before opponents worked Jordan hard at both ends of the floor, became more attentive to his lesser teammates and, in the process, turned what had been a season of exclamation points into questionmarks.

Then there was the hurt of growing whispers that suggested he was little more than a glorified scorer. It didn't seem to matter that his teams had been successful wherever he had gone previously, whether it be North Carolina or the Olympics. Or that the Lakers' Magic admits, "I have a few more horses than he does." As Jordan's points and shot attempts soared, so did criticism, some of it from people whom he respected and even envied.

Among them was Bird, who only the previous year had called Jordan "the best player in the league." He amended the statement, saying, "When he came into the league, I thought (Jordan) would be a great all-around player, but his game has completely changed. Right now, the only thing he does is shoot 30 times a game. I'd never want to play like that. He's got to play like that, I guess, but I would never ever want to take 30-to-35 shots a game. It's too much of a load every game."
 

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Dog....they could have leveraged for more money had their numbers had not fallen.

But I should have corrected myself in saying they lost viewers.

Unless you show me a bid by ABC for broadcast rights to NBA games, and the NBA saying, "No we want XXX", and ABC saying "Hell no, your ratings are down, take it or leave it", then you are speculating. I don't think you fully understand the process. Advertisers buy airtime on Networks. Networks make bids with pro sports leagues to broadcast their games. The young NBA audience are the eyes the advertisers want to get in front of. The NBA knows this. That gives the NBA leverage over the network in negotiating broadcast rights. That's it for me....I got nothin else.
 

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Unless you show me a bid by ABC for broadcast rights to NBA games, and the NBA saying, "No we want XXX", and ABC saying "Hell no, your ratings are down, take it or leave it", then you are speculating. I don't think you fully understand the process. Advertisers buy airtime on Networks. Networks make bids with pro sports leagues to broadcast their games. The young NBA audience are the eyes the advertisers want to get in front of. The NBA knows this. That gives the NBA leverage over the network in negotiating broadcast rights. That's it for me....I got nothin else.


Dog.....that's lost leverage regardless. You'd want to go to negotiations having lost viewership under your belt?

It's added leverage to have viewers. How can one doubt that? The absence had to have cost them more.
 

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I think Kobe is treated with a reasonable level of respect by ESPN.. All I consistently hear is... He's a top 10 player all-time, one of the greatest Lakers ever (along with Magic and Kareem), the 2nd best 2-guard ever, the biggest winner of his era and the closest thing to Jordan..Nobody wants to win more than him.. He's mentally tougher than all of his teammates and peers...

What more can really honestly be said? I don't know what I'm missing..


As far as LeBron goes..He's my favorite player by far.. But it's way too early to sum up his legacy.. He's not even 30 yet and just won his first title 6 months ago...

How should we honestly be speaking about him as compared to Jordan?


And all I hear about him from ESPN analyst is "He's the best player in the game, and it isn't even close?".. "The seperation between him and the next best player is huge".. "He's a man among boys"... "We haven't even see him reach his peak yet"

So you saying that thats not enough praise and he's being slighted somehow because of Jordan?


If anything Durant and Tim Duncan should have a gripe...Not because they can't beat the ghost of MJ, but because they don't even receive the same level of respect as Kobe and Bron...

I ALWAYS personally give Duncan his due, dude won championships in the prime of the Lakers triangle offense. Not to mention dude just doesn't make mistakes with the ball. Durant i would say is gonna be an all time great as well. Only thing i'll say is that people are gonna gravitate to lebron more because he's a more electrifying player and a pure athlete. Durant, however, has one of the most complete skill sets of anyone in the NBA dude is literally a threat from ANY point on the floor. 20 ft, post, 3 point, fast break anywhere dude can score from.

Durant will have a longer career than Lebron because of it imo
 

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Did that not happen to Jordan? He was considered a selfish gunner and compared to unselfish winners like Magic and Bird who "made their teammates better". What's funny is that now the shyt has completely flipped on the strength of the Jordan worship. So now it's all about scoring and taking the last shot. :skip: Can you imagine Magic getting shyt on for passing to an open teammate at the end of a game?

I never said Jordan was never criticized at the time it happened, which is why made the comment about people and their nostalgia goggles.
 
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