Why is it "womens choice" when it comes to abortion because its her body, but not for pregnancy ?

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

And what point is that? That men shouldn't have sex with women they don't want to have children with? Doesn't seem redundant at all.

But women should be allowed to have unprotected sex with as many men as they want right.

So that they can have 2-3 different baby daddies, right.

But it was those 2-3 guys fault they had sex with someone they didn't want kids with.

 

[wickedsm]

I believe men should have a say in the abortion decision.

Okay.
What say should they have?

Serious question.

Woman: I'm pregnant
Man:I want you to have an abortion
Woman: I don't want to have an abortion.

So there the man had his say.
Doesn't change anything.

 

[KinksandCoils]

Ok because you're the end all be all.

Maybe women shouldn't give up the p*ssy to dudes they barely even know, especially without a condom.


We can go back and forth all day long, doesn't make either of us right.

I am in this thread because I believe men should have a say in the abortion decision.

And btw I am a firm believer that a man should pay child support and father their child.

not all single moms was with a man they barely knew. Now let this be the last time you quote me with your 16 yr old boy logic. Men are responsible, I say so and so does the judicial system. You can't force a woman to have a procedure done. get over it. Now buh-bye!

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I am in this thread because I believe men should have a say in the abortion decision.

And btw I am a firm believer that a man should pay child support and father their child.

These two statements dont go together

How exactly would this work.... say the man wants an abortion and the woman doesn't. Who gets the final say?

Should a man be forced to pay child support and father a kid they wanted aborted?

And this doesn't even get into the moral and legal issues of people besides the woman deciding on abortion. Outside of family with power of attorney rights or a life threatening injury theres no instance where some outside person can decide someone should have a highly invasive medical procedure.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Let's not put any blame on women, right.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

These two statements dont go together

How exactly would this work.... say the man wants an abortion and the woman doesn't. Who gets the final say?

Should a man be forced to pay child support and father a kid they wanted aborted?

And this doesn't even get into the moral and legal issues of people besides the woman deciding on abortion. Outside of family with power of attorney rights or a life threatening injury theres no instance where some outside person can decide someone should have a highly invasive medical procedure.

Man these kind of laws and policies take years to develop fam.

You really expect me to come up with them on the spot while I'm on no sleep and on mobile?

If the man wants an abortion and the woman doesn't, then that should dissolve him of any financial responsibility.

She decided to not abort, she should bear the burden of supporting it.

It's 2015 men and women can work the same careers. Men and women make the same amount of money.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

get a vasectomy.

i did and couldnt be happier

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

But women should be allowed to have unprotected sex with as many men as they want right.

So that they can have 2-3 different baby daddies, right.

But it was those 2-3 guys fault they had sex with someone they didn't want kids with.

Bruh like I said this idea that women are getting off easy in this situation is ridiculous.

$400 a month >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> housing, feeding, clothing and raising a child. A kid costs about $1200 a month on average when u factor everything in, and that doesn't count all the time, effort and stress. And all that effort is DOUBLED when it's only one parent. So I'm not sure why you are acting like women are getting off easy

 

[wickedsm]

Btw
All the men in this thread who think abortion is their get out of jail free card and that if you tell the woman that you want her to get one she automatically should, need to get out and vote. There's a major push right now to try to outlaw abortion or at the very least make them nearly impossible to get for the average American woman.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

If abortion clinics required a sign off from the father
Like adoptions do
What suggestions do y'all have to ensure that it's actually the right man who's signing?

Serious question. Not trying to be slick.

dna test... and yes they can test dna inside the womb

killing a kid shouldn't be as easy as going to mcdonalds

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

But women should be allowed to have unprotected sex with as many men as they want right.

So that they can have 2-3 different baby daddies, right.

But it was those 2-3 guys fault they had sex with someone they didn't want kids with.

Still waiting on a reply to this

 

[aXiom]

W/o her consent?

The man consents to that 18 year money sink when he makes the voluntary choice to have sex with her

Similarly the woman consents to that 18 year commitment by letting a man nut in her

Yall nikkas got the game confused. Avg child support is like $400 a month; how much do you think the costs of raising a kid are? Financially men still get off hella easy with regards to kids

Compared to a one time fee of $300?


And no, it's not the same. She has power of atter.. womb. So she can change her mind even if you both agree before hand that you don't want kids, even if the contraceptive malfunctions.

Quit acting like it's a level playing field. If you both agree that you don't want kids and she gets pregnant and decides she wants to keep the child that's fine, but the father should be able to opt out of any responsibility.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Bruh like I said this idea that women are getting off easy in this situation is ridiculous.

$400 a month >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> housing, feeding, clothing and raising a child. A kid costs about $1200 a month on average when u factor everything in, and that doesn't count all the time, effort and stress. And all that effort is DOUBLED when it's only one parent. So I'm not sure why you are acting like women are getting off easy

cause the TYPE of women who will run you down for child support... are the type of women living at home with mom, on welfare, and not putting up 400 of their own damn money to do so


i don't think ANYONE is talking about good women, working hard, being good mothers, and just being shytty to the father..... most good people like that, are good all around... you not gonna be good and civil in life and then be a completely evil bytch when it comes to the dad

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Okay.
What say should they have?

Serious question.

Woman: I'm pregnant
Man:I want you to have an abortion
Woman: I don't want to have an abortion.

So there the man had his say.
Doesn't change anything.

Read my last reply

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Man these kind of laws and policies take years to develop fam.

You really expect me to come up with them on the spot while I'm on no sleep and on mobile?

If the man wants an abortion and the woman doesn't, then that should dissolve him of any financial responsibility.

She decided to not abort, she should bear the burden of supporting it.

It's 2015 men and women can work the same careers. Men and women make the same amount of money.

She decided not to abort, and they both decided to fukk.

Men and women make the same amount of money..... I dont see how this absolves men of their financial responsibility; its not like if a man doesnt want a kid the kid costs half the money to raise.

You just said you are for men having to pay child support and raise their kids.... I guess you are only for that when the man wants to, which doesnt mean shyt in the context of this convo.

If two people CHOOSE to have sex, BOTH people are responsible if the kid is born. If a man has sex he runs the risk of getting a woman pregnant who doesn't want an abortion and thus bears some responsibility- responsibility which is MUCH LESS than the woman's if she gets full custody and child support.