Why is LeBron James the only 30 yr. old who isn't "old"?

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You really think Bron is athletic as he was in 03-13?? I don't he is close to being that athletic no more, I think he been on a athletic decline since 2015 he dont have the same stamina he used to. He really improved his shooting tho

This isnt a Stan war for me. I think most of these 1% athletes have help. Whether its for recovery or for improvement. I refuse to believe everything around us is changing except the dope. Think about it....they was rubbing lotion in in the 90's. Everybody got duped cause they thought the dope game was all pills and syringes. There's too much proof out there to suggest what all those minutes should do to a body. But somehow Bron stans think his sleep regimen makes it all possible.
 

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I keep hearing Melo is 30, Bosh is 30 and they are old. LeBron will be 30 for the MAJORITY of the 2014-15 season. Why isn't he old? he also has more "mileage" on him than any of those so called "old" players.

heck it's people drafted after or in Bron's class who either retired or are just considered old.
 

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Do you have the slightest recollection of what 2010 LeBron played like athletically? Seriously asking. I don’t think you do. He’s been noticeably slower, less explosive, and with a considerably lower vertical for some time. Look at this.



He’s not getting up like that these days. Now look at this.



Are you trying to argue he gets up like this still?


You're missing the point. The wear and tear on his body shouldn't even allow for him to look like he looks now. The most athletic player the game has seen in years, VC, was a dam health nut. A former band geek turned athlete who took care of his body and no matter what he did, those minutes changed him. I don't know why your only measure of whether or not he's the same is his vertical. I just said in a previous post....the dope aint all performance based. Most of it is recovery based.
 

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You're missing the point. The wear and tear on his body shouldn't even allow for him to look like he looks now. The most athletic player the game has seen in years, VC, was a dam health nut. A former band geek turned athlete who took care of his body and no matter what he did, those minutes changed him. I don't know why your only measure of whether or not he's the same is his vertical. I just said in a previous post....the dope aint all performance based. Most of it is recovery based.
I don’t think you understand how to properly argue your point. You just keep repeating that he shouldn’t be as great an athlete as he is presently and it has to be him using something without presenting anything that suggests he’s using. Someone else becoming :flabbynsick: is not a valid argument. AI was washed by his 13th season. Kobe was still banging on dudes in year 17. Neither has any standing on the other. This has never been an nba issue. He’s clearly not as explosive or fast as he was in his mid to late 20’s and can’t go balls to the wall on both ends for 40+ minutes anymore while looking like the defensive player of the year on anything close to a regular basis.
 

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“Modern Medicine nutrition and Maintenance has obviously evolved over the past 30 years”:leon:










“......But only of the illegal variety”:troll:
 
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I don’t think you understand how to properly argue your point. You just keep repeating that he shouldn’t be as great an athlete as he is presently and it has to be him using something without presenting anything that suggests he’s using. Someone else becoming :flabbynsick: is not a valid argument. AI was washed by his 13th season. Kobe was still banging on dudes in year 17. Neither has any standing on the other. This has never been an nba issue. He’s clearly not as explosive or fast as he was in his mid to late 20’s and can’t go balls to the wall on both ends for 40+ minutes anymore while looking like the defensive player of the year on anything close to a regular basis.

He never did go balls to the wall on both ends for 40 plus mins. Stop with the revisionist history. Like I said, keep burying your head in the sand. It's entertainment to me. I have no investment in these athletes like some do. This isn't a Bron issue, its a modern athlete issue. These guys have help. Whether its performance based or recovery based, they have help. nikkas swear Bron sleeping 8 hours and doing cable crosses while balancing on a ball is the end all be all to this.
 

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Danny granger, Charlie Villanueva, Deron Williams. guys who are considered ancient and can't get a look in the league
Granger never recovered from his injury. Charlie seemed to stop caring once he got his contract and Deron had a combo of both with injuries and not seeming like the same player after he left Utah and got paid. They had their time and each played at least a decade i'm sure.
 

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Naw....I just dont allow my fandom to supersede common sense. I don't care how many organic smoothies you drink or hours you sleep, the wear and tear on the body is real. Nobody says he has to fall off the cliff, but some noticeable athletic decline is to be expected. But keep making excuses. A lot of minutes on hardwood floors on his knees, shock waves sent up his back and spine from all that impact from jumping and landing, but hey.....sleep 11 hours a night and you too can continue to run 4.4 speed, jumpout the building, absorb grown 1% level athletetic males contact like they're flies, with no sign of wear and tear for 15 years straight.
Name another NBA athlete that seems to be benifiting from PEDs the way You claim Bron is?

Why does it not seem to work for Wade, Rose, Melo etc...

If PEDs work so good for Bron why don’t they work that good, for that long, for other NBA athletes?

You said yourself Bron ain’t the only one doing it right?
 

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Name another NBA athlete that seems to be benifiting from PEDs the way You claim Bron is?

Why does it not seem to work for Wade, Rose, Melo etc...

If PEDs work so good for Bron why don’t they work that good, for that long, for other NBA athletes?

You said yourself Bron ain’t the only one doing it right?


And if lebron is using PED's why would he not give the brotherhood some


make sure they can keep playing like he is

so lebron is the ONLY one that found the best way to use them :ohhh:
 

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Name another NBA athlete that seems to be benifiting from PEDs the way You claim Bron is?

Why does it not seem to work for Wade, Rose, Melo etc...

If PEDs work so good for Bron why don’t they work that good, for that long, for other NBA athletes?

You said yourself Bron ain’t the only one doing it right?

The same reason only Bonds hit 73 homeruns. Stop being dense. I'm convinced some of y'all were too young to remember when the PED issue with baseball surfaced. Everyone turned a blind eye to shyt that was clearly abnormal. Again, the bulk of the dope is in the recovery. Any body builder would tell you it don't matter how much dope you use if you don't put in the work. Its not a one stop shop. So don't come asking why lazy ass Melo ain't reaping the benefits a Bron does. Some of y'all are too invested in this cause Bron name is attached. Moving forward, I'll just say these "modern athletes" are getting help. Period.
 
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