Why is LeBron routinely painted as an underdog?

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Lebron > Durant
Kyrie == Steph
Draymond == Tristan
Love < Klay

Their greatest exposure is that they just don't know when to stop. :dead:

He literally just said that Kyrie and TT, the core of the 2013 Cavs who went 24-58, are just as good a pair as Steph and Draymond. :dahell:

Hell, Steph led the 2013 Warriors to a 47-35 record when Draymond was a rookie not even getting 15 minutes/game yet. :ehh:



At the beginning of the season, 19 NBA GM's said that Curry was the best point guard in the league. 2 said that about Kyrie. Curry has 2 MVP awards. Kyrie hasn't even made 3rd-team All-NBA twice. Curry led the Warriors to a playoff series win over the Nuggets and took 2 games from the West champ Spurs when his 2nd-leading scorer was Jarrett Jack. Kyrie couldn't even MAKE the playoffs before Lebron came.


At the beginning of the season, 12 NBA GM's said that Klay was the best shooting guard in the league (everyone else said Harden). I doubt you could find 12 NBA GM's who would even let JR start at SG for their own team. Hell, there might not be 12 who would let him on the roster. Klay been All-NBA two years in a row, JR Smith hasn't gotten an All-NBA vote in his life.


At the beginning of the season, 7 NBA GM's said that Durant was the best small forward in the league. The other 23 said Lebron. That is the Cavs' ONE advantage.


At the beginning of the season, 5 NBA GM's said that Draymond was the best power forward in the league. The only actual power forward who got more votes was AD (another 6 said that Lebron was the best PF as well as SF). Love hasn't gotten any votes in that survey since 2014, when all of 2 GM's were willing to name him as the top power forward (coincidentally, that was also the last time that any GM could claim they hadn't seen "playoff Love").


At the beginning of the season, 12 NBA GM's said that Iggy is the bench player who makes the biggest impact when he enters a game. Zero said that shyt about anyone on the Cavs' bench right now. Zero ever will.



Tristan and Draymond are evenly matched imo based on last years finals.

You mean the one where Draymond averaged 17-10-6-2-1 while Tristan averaged 10-10-1-0-1? You mean the one where Draymond went 32-15-9 in Game 7? The one where the Warriors fell apart and got blown out on their own home court when Draymond missed Game 5? The one where Draymond hit 13 threes while Tristan wouldn't launch a 16-foot jumper if his life depended on it? The one where Draymond led all Warriors with over 6 assists/game while Tristan didn't even get 6 assists the entire series? The one where Draymond played all-world defense and completely shut down Love whenever he was in the game, while TT played good team defense but can't shut down anyone?

There can't really be anyone dumb enough to believe that Tristan = Draymond. :usure:




The teams are evenly matched. Cleveland has more than enough fire power to beat Golden State. Yall fakkits just don't want any sort of competition whatsoever. Kyrie and Steph gonna go at it, Durant and Bron gonna go at it, Draymond and Tristan gonna go at it, Love can contribute in the paint and Klay can contribute from the perimeter and both teams benches can go at it too. That shyt looks even as hell to me. You fukking whiny ass muthafukkers :hhh:

Yes, I'm sure that 538 currently puts the Warriors at a 75% chance to win the title, and the Cavs at a 3% chance, because of a giant conspiracy against them.

ESPN and Vegas and The Coli are all in on the conspiracy too.

And that bolded part is some incredibly dumb shyt that just proves you don't watch a fukking game. When the hell has Love contributed in the paint against the Warriors? Love is AWFUL in the paint against the Warriors.
 
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i would like to nominate this dude for WOAT poster early. just says the dumbest shyt imaginable every time he posts.

the lakers were the favorite because the celtics looked completely washed in 2010. they had a horrible regular season, but of course being the prideful vets they were, pulled it together enough to make it back to the finals. the cavs were still a one man team, and the magic have never matched up well with the celtics. they only beat them on 09 because garnett was out with injury.
They looked washed in the regular season. Not the playoffs :camby:

By the time the finals rolled in, the Celtics looked like the better team. Kobe was also dealing with knee issues that entire run. Lakers being the favorites made no sense

Now that you mention it. 1 man show LeBron was actually the favorite from 08-10. Now that he has all stars around him, he's an underdog :deadrose:
 

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At the beginning of the season, 19 NBA GM's said that Curry was the best point guard in the league. 2 said that about Kyrie. Curry has 2 MVP awards. Kyrie hasn't even made 3rd-team All-NBA twice. Curry led the Warriors to a playoff series win over the Nuggets and took 2 games from the West champ Spurs when his 2nd-leading scorer was Jarrett Jack. Kyrie couldn't even MAKE the playoffs before Lebron came.
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What does finals record really tell you though? It gives you a pass for losing before the finals.

Its not like the players who don't play in the finals each year just sat out. They all tried to get there and failed.
True. Lebron having that all time game 5 vs the '07 Pistons is now a bad thing lol because his team had no business facing the Spurs. Really, the only Finals I'd ever knock Bron for so far is '11, that was inexcusable. All the other ones ('12, '13, '14, '15, '16) he rumbled against some stacked if not all time teams, particularly GSW and SA.
 

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Their greatest exposure is that they just don't know when to stop. :dead:

He literally just said that Kyrie and TT, the core of the 2013 Cavs who went 24-58, are just as good a pair as Steph and Draymond. :dahell:

Hell, Steph led the 2013 Warriors to a 47-35 record when Draymond was a rookie not even getting 15 minutes/game yet. :ehh:



At the beginning of the season, 19 NBA GM's said that Curry was the best point guard in the league. 2 said that about Kyrie. Curry has 2 MVP awards. Kyrie hasn't even made 3rd-team All-NBA twice. Curry led the Warriors to a playoff series win over the Nuggets and took 2 games from the West champ Spurs when his 2nd-leading scorer was Jarrett Jack. Kyrie couldn't even MAKE the playoffs before Lebron came.


At the beginning of the season, 12 NBA GM's said that Klay was the best shooting guard in the league (everyone else said Harden). I doubt you could find 12 NBA GM's who would even let JR start at SG for their own team. Hell, there might not be 12 who would let him on the roster. Klay been All-NBA two years in a row, JR Smith hasn't gotten an All-NBA vote in his life.


At the beginning of the season, 7 NBA GM's said that Durant was the best small forward in the league. The other 23 said Lebron. That is the Cavs' ONE advantage.


At the beginning of the season, 5 NBA GM's said that Draymond was the best power forward in the league. The only actual power forward who got more votes was AD (another 6 said that Lebron was the best PF as well as SF). Love hasn't gotten any votes in that survey since 2014, when all of 2 GM's were willing to name him as the top power forward (coincidentally, that was also the last time that any GM could claim they hadn't seen "playoff Love").


At the beginning of the season, 12 NBA GM's said that Iggy is the bench player who makes the biggest impact when he enters a game. Zero said that shyt about anyone on the Cavs' bench right now. Zero ever will.





You mean the one where Draymond averaged 17-10-6-2-1 while Tristan averaged 10-10-1-0-1? You mean the one where Draymond went 32-15-9 in Game 7? The one where the Warriors fell apart and got blown out on their own home court when Draymond missed Game 5? The one where Draymond hit 13 threes while Tristan wouldn't launch a 16-foot jumper if his life depended on it? The one where Draymond led all Warriors with over 6 assists/game while Tristan didn't even get 6 assists the entire series? The one where Draymond played all-world defense and completely shut down Love whenever he was in the game, while TT played good team defense but can't shut down anyone?

There can't really be anyone dumb enough to believe that Tristan = Draymond. :usure:






Yes, I'm sure that 538 currently puts the Warriors at a 75% chance to win the title, and the Cavs at a 3% chance, because of a giant conspiracy against them.

ESPN and Vegas and The Coli are all in on the conspiracy too.

And that bolded part is some incredibly dumb shyt that just proves you don't watch a fukking game. When the hell has Love contributed in the paint against the Warriors? Love is AWFUL in the paint against the Warriors.


Shut up fakkit.

Draymond averaged 16 points in the Finals. Not 17. Stop lying. Tristan averaged 10. And I watched the Finals dikkhead, that's why your surface level stats ain't flying here. Tristan made key blocks and defensive stops all Finals. Played smart. Defended the post. Roughed GS up. Draymond made stupid plays, a bunch of fouls every game, kicked ppl in the nuts and got suspended.

The teams are equal like I said fukkboy.

LeBron is a superstar. Durant is a superstar.

Steph is a top 3 player however Kyrie exposes him every time they play each other.

Kevin Love was a top 10 player in the league on Minnesota. He played like shyt last Finals but that talent is still there. That's y'all fault for not utilizing him properly.
 

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Shut up fakkit.

Draymond averaged 16 points in the Finals. Not 17. Stop lying. Tristan averaged 10. And I watched the Finals dikkhead, that's why your surface level stats ain't flying here. Tristan made key blocks and defensive stops all Finals. Played smart. Defended the post. Roughed GS up. Draymond made stupid plays, a bunch of fouls every game, kicked ppl in the nuts and got suspended.

The teams are equal like I said fukkboy.

LeBron is a superstar. Durant is a superstar.

Steph is a top 3 player however Kyrie exposes him every time they play each other.

Kevin Love was a top 10 player in the league on Minnesota. He played like shyt last Finals but that talent is still there. That's y'all fault for not utilizing him properly.

Call Kevin Love a top 10 player despite not leading his team to s single playoff appearance.

Compare the soon to be DPOTY (Also,one of the best passing forwards in the league) in Draymond Green to Tristan Thompson.

Ignore the 2nd to 3rd best shooting guard in the league in Klay Thompson and a COY in Steve Kerr.

Take Lebron off the Cavs and Durant off the Warriors. What team wins?
 

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The reason why lebron has failed in the finals so much is because he has played in so many. fukk outta here, ol "it's better not to get there" ass nikkas.
Also, let's go into detail why LeBron loss some of his finals. The 1st year we got the Cavs there, his 2nd best player was mo Williams against the Spurs. His 1st time with the heat was actually the only one he has no excuse to lose against Dirk. And then he went there again against the Warriors with Kyrie and Love hurt. His 2nd best player was Delly.
 

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Their greatest exposure is that they just don't know when to stop. :dead:

He literally just said that Kyrie and TT, the core of the 2013 Cavs who went 24-58, are just as good a pair as Steph and Draymond. :dahell:

Hell, Steph led the 2013 Warriors to a 47-35 record when Draymond was a rookie not even getting 15 minutes/game yet. :ehh:



At the beginning of the season, 19 NBA GM's said that Curry was the best point guard in the league. 2 said that about Kyrie. Curry has 2 MVP awards. Kyrie hasn't even made 3rd-team All-NBA twice. Curry led the Warriors to a playoff series win over the Nuggets and took 2 games from the West champ Spurs when his 2nd-leading scorer was Jarrett Jack. Kyrie couldn't even MAKE the playoffs before Lebron came.


At the beginning of the season, 12 NBA GM's said that Klay was the best shooting guard in the league (everyone else said Harden). I doubt you could find 12 NBA GM's who would even let JR start at SG for their own team. Hell, there might not be 12 who would let him on the roster. Klay been All-NBA two years in a row, JR Smith hasn't gotten an All-NBA vote in his life.


At the beginning of the season, 7 NBA GM's said that Durant was the best small forward in the league. The other 23 said Lebron. That is the Cavs' ONE advantage.


At the beginning of the season, 5 NBA GM's said that Draymond was the best power forward in the league. The only actual power forward who got more votes was AD (another 6 said that Lebron was the best PF as well as SF). Love hasn't gotten any votes in that survey since 2014, when all of 2 GM's were willing to name him as the top power forward (coincidentally, that was also the last time that any GM could claim they hadn't seen "playoff Love").


At the beginning of the season, 12 NBA GM's said that Iggy is the bench player who makes the biggest impact when he enters a game. Zero said that shyt about anyone on the Cavs' bench right now. Zero ever will.





You mean the one where Draymond averaged 17-10-6-2-1 while Tristan averaged 10-10-1-0-1? You mean the one where Draymond went 32-15-9 in Game 7? The one where the Warriors fell apart and got blown out on their own home court when Draymond missed Game 5? The one where Draymond hit 13 threes while Tristan wouldn't launch a 16-foot jumper if his life depended on it? The one where Draymond led all Warriors with over 6 assists/game while Tristan didn't even get 6 assists the entire series? The one where Draymond played all-world defense and completely shut down Love whenever he was in the game, while TT played good team defense but can't shut down anyone?

There can't really be anyone dumb enough to believe that Tristan = Draymond. :usure:






Yes, I'm sure that 538 currently puts the Warriors at a 75% chance to win the title, and the Cavs at a 3% chance, because of a giant conspiracy against them.

ESPN and Vegas and The Coli are all in on the conspiracy too.

And that bolded part is some incredibly dumb shyt that just proves you don't watch a fukking game. When the hell has Love contributed in the paint against the Warriors? Love is AWFUL in the paint against the Warriors.

Thank you for roasting that nikka with 1000% factsabd anytime Love goes up against a top 10-15 PF he gets roasted

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He was a legimitate underdog in 2007, 2014, 2015, 2016.

In '07 he went up against a highly pedigreed dynasty at 22 years old with the worst supporting cast of All-Time. No chance any superstar player ever wins in this predicament.

In '14, the Spurs were favorites this is the best Spurs team they've had. The Heat defense fell off a cliff and Wade was looking flabby. Also, the media pushed a Spurs revenge narrative, and pushing for a fifth Tim Duncan ring, and looked to push Kawhi as a superstar in the making.

'15 pretty self explanatory. LeBron vs. a 67 win Warriors team with no Kyrie or Love.

'16 again pretty self-explanatory. Facing the G.O.A.T. regular season team.

LeBron's faced some tough ass teams in the Finals.
 
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