Why is Sam Darnold so overrated?

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none of those guys panned out. Look at all the 1st round picks of big 12 QBs. In a conference that throws the ball all over the field none of those guys become above average long term starters.
Check out this article from this morning:
Mason Rudolph’s NFL Draft Problem

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It was supposed to be a test against Pitt on Saturday, but Mason Rudolph’s stat line by the end of the first half read this way: 20-for-28, 423 yards, 5 TDs, 0 INT, and a commanding 49-14 lead.

What more could the fifth-year senior possibly do?

The answer would see to be “pretty much nothing.” If Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy kept his foot on the pedal and left Rudolph in the game, getting to 800 or 900 yards wouldn’t have been out of the question. And yet, on the actual tape, some NFL scouts swear there’s still plenty to be desired.

“He’s O.K.,” said one AFC scouting director. “He’s playing in a great, quarterback-friendly offense. Probably has a top 10-caliber group of receivers. Gundy is a great coach and does an outstanding job with that offense. I’m not sold on him as a top guy . . . He’s a decent athlete. He’s tough and runs that offense well. But not sure the video game numbers he’s gonna put up this year will translate to the NFL.”

“He’s got good size,” was the positive an AFC personnel exec found before echoing the sentiment, “but his arm strength is lacking and he’s inconsistent with his accuracy.”

Added an area scout: “Not as good as the media wants everyone to believe; he’s a Day 3 guy. His accuracy isn’t as good as the numbers show—his receivers make a lot of tough catches for him. Arm strength is adequate, not tops. What’s the difference between him and Bryce Petty?”
This is basically the book on these Big 12 QB's. QB-friendly offenses, great WRs, genius offensive coaching designed to rack up passing yardage, terrible defense. Just need a warm body to go out there and execute the throws.
 

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But, in regards to the NFL draft, you should know what you’re watching. There have been 12 quarterbacks in major college football history to throw for 5,000 yards in a season, and just three of them—Derek Carr, Patrick Mahomes and David Klingler—went in the first fiverounds out of the draft. The other nine? Two sixth-rounders, two seventh-rounders, a ninth-rounder (when that round still existed) and four undrafted free agents.

Some of the more aged names on the list (like Klingler or Hawaii’s Colt Brennan) played in the old run-and-shoot. More recent members of the club played in its schematic descendent, the Air Raid.

So what set Carr and Mahomes apart? Simple: traits.

If you come from one of these systems, your traits need to be special because there will be skepticism. Both Mahomes and Carr had unquestionable arm talent, and each carried leadership qualities that made teams believe they had the commitment level needed to transition from those offenses; the latter can only truly be gauged after the prospect leaves campus and enters the pre-draft process.

“At at a minimum, [Rudolph] has to have the arm talent,” the AFC scouting director said. “He might have the mental ability, but we don’t learn that until we get our hands on them after the season.”
Damn this fool saying the exact same shyt I'm saying in this thread, just more eloquently
 

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But RG3 was a playoff QB until his coaches ran him to the ground. They practically used him like a runningback and when he got hurt they kept throwing him out there until his body gave out.

I still support RG3 and think he could be a good QB in the league, however his injury issues extended WAY past the point of read options and scrambles. iirc his last 2 redskins injuries were pretty much non contact, namely the ankle injury that sidelined him in 2014

Besides that doesn't speak to the player himself inviting contact and the reservations of their spread-type college offense are somewhat legitimized to me.

They used Cam the same way at first, but his coaches knew better and now he's practically a pocket passer that only scrambles when its absolutely necessary rather than a read option QB that has 20+ designed runs a game.
I don't think you could have chose a worse example right here lol.

Cam does more QB designed runs than anyone in the league.
 

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I still support RG3 and think he could be a good QB in the league, however his injury issues extended WAY past the point of read options and scrambles. iirc his last 2 redskins injuries were pretty much non contact, namely the ankle injury that sidelined him in 2014

Besides that doesn't speak to the player himself inviting contact and the reservations of their spread-type college offense are somewhat legitimized to me.


I don't think you could have chose a worse example right here lol.

Cam does more QB designed runs than anyone in the league.

This year? I pretty much only see him do runs in scramble situations now that they added mccaffrey
 

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This year? I pretty much only see him do runs in scramble situations now that they added mccaffrey

This year is only a couple games and he barely played in preseason to recover from injuries. I hope they're falling back from the QB designed runs for good and not just waiting for him to get healthy tho. It's ridiculous
 

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I'm glad the Bears got Trubisky...

I hope that nikka jewish or something... Bears brehs gonna eat off all the moved goal posts...
 

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I've seen enough of this guy to know he's the real deal. He's like a robot under pressure. If he was black he would be loved on this board.
Black people find reasons to collectively undervalue white athletes? :childplease:

We respond the way we do because white folks often overhype white athletes. We collectively are not like white sports fans.
 
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