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I understand that's a corner stone of hip hop but why isn't originality praised? A person creating instead of building upon or at times just adding drums to...
Why is sampling held in such high regards?
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Use a little to make a lot. The hood mentality. You had to be there.
Post us a beat you made on an MPC or SP1200. You'll find your answer there.
With a producer like Premier or RZA they were chopping and flipping samples in a way that they turned the original into its own thing. And those old samples just have more soul than what you can make on a keyboard.
Kind of surprised as hip hop became a massive commercial enterprise more producers didn't start hiring live musicians and start composing tracks with a 70s soul or 80s R&B feel for example but are original composition. It'd be cheaper than clearing a well known sample in a lot of cases.
Kind of surprised as hip hop became a massive commercial enterprise more producers didn't start hiring live musicians and start composing tracks with a 70s soul or 80s R&B feel for example but are original composition. It'd be cheaper than clearing a well known sample in a lot of cases.
It’s all arrangement. Taking existing material. Modifying it. Arranging it with other existing material to create something new. It’s called collage art.
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This literally applies to making a beat from scratch. Moreso actually.
I’ve always loved it because it broadened my tastes. Sampling other genres got me to listen to music I woulda never even heard of
Playing with another man's instrument... might as well call them daddy
We can tell who aint from Harlem in here.
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Sampling may seem easy but it takes such a precise ear and skill, especially back then. You need the new drums to compliment the ones in the sample, you've got to work around the limitations of the hardware by sampling at twice the speed, the bitcrush creating its own aura, the 808s, filtering, the swing of the machine and your own groove...
The list is endless but if you know, you know. Modern beatmaking is way easier as there is so much more room and resources. Back then it was all chopping bits and pieces of tech together to create a new sound and in the same process breathing new life into old records and artists people otherwise would never know.
Its one of them things that may seem easy and uncreative until you actually try it for yourself and then you get that rush when a break fits perfectly with some chops and the end result is spectacular.
The list is endless but if you know, you know. Modern beatmaking is way easier as there is so much more room and resources. Back then it was all chopping bits and pieces of tech together to create a new sound and in the same process breathing new life into old records and artists people otherwise would never know.
Its one of them things that may seem easy and uncreative until you actually try it for yourself and then you get that rush when a break fits perfectly with some chops and the end result is spectacular.
Sampling will always be relatively cheap compared to what's required to record/engineer a full arrangement of live instruments. Especially when you compare it to the mid-70's/early 80's where access to a recording studio would be mandatory and prohibitively expensive for someone without a label budget (ie almost anyone in hip hop). Original sampling was a turntable (preferably 2), a dj mixer and a cassette tape recorder.
And even when stuff like the SP-12 or MPC60 came around, that was still relatively cheaper compared to live arrangement/recording.
That approach set a precedent for hip hop that has been maintained. It also showed the world that you could revamp and revitalize past musical works in unexpected ways. That was brand new to the artform of music at the time. It added a new layer of creativity to appreciate instead of just dismissing the idea of using someone else's work and implying plagiarism (which sampling never was).
That's some of the reasons why. Several other posts here have pointed out others.
And even when stuff like the SP-12 or MPC60 came around, that was still relatively cheaper compared to live arrangement/recording.
That approach set a precedent for hip hop that has been maintained. It also showed the world that you could revamp and revitalize past musical works in unexpected ways. That was brand new to the artform of music at the time. It added a new layer of creativity to appreciate instead of just dismissing the idea of using someone else's work and implying plagiarism (which sampling never was).
That's some of the reasons why. Several other posts here have pointed out others.
It was cheaper back then, not so much now
Because what RZA did with Soul records from the 70s in a complete art.
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Most time sampling is used as a crutch. Especially how Dr. dre and puff did it. I've literally seen beat makers get mad at others for flipping a sample they did as if they made the beat.