Why is sampling held in such high regards?

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The rise of computer production, cracked software and plugins definitely had a lot to do with it. Before you'd get one main piece of hardware, study it inside out and make it sing. There were nuances and subtlety you had to dig to find out and work within the constraints that pushed creativity to its limits. Sure it was a bytch but she birthed inspiration, repeatedly. The point and click era saw people just shovel on presets, premade patches, loops etc.. and made the barrier to entry too low so everyone thinks they can make a beat. Throw in AI structuring and the Formula and you've got everything sounding the same.

The net just added to the half cooked beats pushed out because gone are the days of working on track in the lab for as long as it took to get it right. Now its just on to the next one and you hear so much that could've been so much more. On the flip you also hear stuff thats way overproduced as well.

Its odd how chewing gum like music has become with an intense hit but no replayability beyond bumping your gums.
You ain’t never lied about the overproduced tracks , I be like damn bytch why so many layers :mjlol:
 

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Sampling is a litmus test

People who don't understand the art of sampling don't understand Hip-Hop at all

I used to play a certain song for people from the late 80s thats had a simple loop for a beat

The beat is incredible numerous producers have brought this song up in the past and they understand why its so great

if the person fukked with it I knew they had understanding of HIP-HOP

if they looked down on it and be like "they didn't do nothing with the beat" I knew they were a complete poser

its also why I know people who don't fukk with late 80s/early 90s hip-hop are also posers

they don't understand sampling in general and think shyt is only dope if its chopped up or flipped a certain way

So many people don't even realize that they actually don't like hip-hop like a lot of cats who can't listen to rap pre 1994
 

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Sampling really is a double edge sword.


Pros

Some of the greatest songs not just in rap consisted of samples.

Samples can add so much depth and texture to a record if done right

Plus if you love the sample you find out what record it was and you can discover a new artist or band.

Cons

it can be expensive and hard to clear. Seriously some people want 100k to clear a record plus publishing smh.

During the drumless phase a lot of producers literally found a sample copy cut pasted it then looped it. It was infuriating
 

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just to keep it not totally hiphop an artist like burial, basically considered a generational once in a lifetime talent would not be here with sampling. If you think sampling is easy or a shortcut you just have no idea the art behind this shyt.

 

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question has no context. it was/is an innovative way to make music without knowing how to play an "instrument". it sounds amazing , whats the issue
 

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I’ve always loved it because it broadened my tastes. Sampling other genres got me to listen to music I woulda never even heard of

THIS

RZA sampling 4 seconds of an old Frank Zappa track for "Cold World" got me to check out his music. I dunno about you, but when I hear a dope beat with a sample, I google the shyt out of it until I find out where it's sampled from, and find the original record and try to pick out what part of the track was sampled. It's fun.
 

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THIS

RZA sampling 4 seconds of an old Frank Zappa track for "Cold World" got me to check out his music. I dunno about you, but when I hear a dope beat with a sample, I google the shyt out of it until I find out where it's sampled from, and find the original record and try to pick out what part of the track was sampled. It's fun.


This was the foundation of my love of music breh :wow: why my top 3 in my lifetime are Alc, Lib, Ye
 

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With a producer like Premier or RZA they were chopping and flipping samples in a way that they turned the original into its own thing. And those old samples just have more soul than what you can make on a keyboard.

Kind of surprised as hip hop became a massive commercial enterprise more producers didn't start hiring live musicians and start composing tracks with a 70s soul or 80s R&B feel for example but are original composition. It'd be cheaper than clearing a well known sample in a lot of cases.
In the long run, maybe, in the immediate time when you're trying to create, paying each player isn't cheap. Especially when every beat may not even be picked up.
 

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Most time sampling is used as a crutch. Especially how Dr. dre and puff did it. I've literally seen beat makers get mad at others for flipping a sample they did as if they made the beat.

I get mad at that because I flipped it first, that's somebody beating me to the punch...especially if they flipped it worse than I did.
 
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