Why is the South blatantly and purposely mishandling Covid?

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As a non US resident I'm always taken aback by the amount of power governors wield within a federal system. They can basically tell the president to hold these nuts and go about their day with not much pressure being able to be applied other then decrease funding. I might simplify the scope of authority but when a national crisis emerges,how can states just ignore mandates by an elected president and go against policy with no regard for the safety and rights of the people in that state?

To make a long story short, the "states rights" thing as people currently see it has its roots back in the slavery/civil war era.

The southern states didn't like the feds telling them to cut out slavery (they thought it should be a state issue) and after that they used "states rights" as an excuse whenever they wanted to legalize discrimination, or whatever other :mjpls: policies they wanted to have and push back on civil rights. At this point it's basically a dogwhistle when Republican states don't want to do something.
 

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No, the numbers are pretty consistent with population.

Ya'll watch too much MSNBC and CNN. Political theater is just that. A show. "Blue" NY and Cali still has more deaths and cases.

Of course they have more deaths. Basing this on what the Census Bureau considers "the South", NYC alone -- not the state, just the city -- has more people in it than all but four Southern states. Cali has more people in it than any other state. Frankly they SHOULD have more cases than most. I hate they do, but it's just based on the amount of people they have.

But at least those states are TRYING to do something to turn it around. NY has a mask mandate for school kids -- which is a big problem amongst folk right now in the South -- and NYC is at the point where they don't even allow indoor dining and shyt like that to people who haven't had at least one dose of the vaccine. California has a mask mandate in areas too. Will it make a difference? Maybe, maybe not. But the attempt is being made by their state leadership.

The South, by and large, doesn't seem to be even trying anything like that outside of a few pockets and the larger cities of Texas. I live in Texas so I can only speak on that with any confidence, but it doesn't seem like I'm far off. And you know what's happening in Texas? The damn governor -- who is fully vaccinated and luckily dealing with asymptomatic COVID -- made an executive order blocking those cities from putting measures like that in place.

Now, if you're basing "mishandling of COVID" on how many people died, then that's the only way you've got a legit argument on whatever your stance seems to be and even then, it's kind of baseless. That ain't what this is about.

The "mishandling" is coming from the fact that in the South, it appears state leadership seems to be actively working against its constituents that try to put things in place to combat COVID. That's an abject failure on a catastrophic level, and for the most part the constituents brought on themselves when they went to the polls.
 

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I don't have proof of this, but I am pretty sure that most if not all of the Southern politicians have been vaccinated. They are not stupid you know. They are just evil.

So their whole shtick is to sound like they are down with the people who they serve, who are a bunch of unwashed ignorant rednecks that don't want to be vaccinated. It is all part of con game that rich White Southerners and now Cubans play on dopey po broke ass White people. Those politicians give dumb White people something to hate and broke ass White people are happier than a pig in slop. That is how it works. That is why dopey Southern White people are into wrestling too.

The reals loser are the dummies that those politicians serve, because those clowns have not even figured out that those Governors, Senators and Trump have all been vaccinated. I have no idea why po broke ass Black people are not getting vaccinated. None.

They think that if you poor and/or non-white, then its the ultimate sin and death is the appropriate punishment. These GOP politicians down south engaging on genocide
 

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i've notice the south has a historical trend of being especially contrary to human rights much less scientific thought.


Slavery, Black Codes, Sharecropping, Jim Crow, KKK, this pandemic etc...

The south was settled by the most backward cacs from the British Isles. Basically everywhere the Romans didn’t make it to and bring some civilization is where the cacs who originally settled the South came from. Northern England, Scotland and Ireland. They were basically a bunch of lazy, but wild ass herdsmen, hunters and fighters. It’s why they needed Africans to do the hard work of farming that requires disciple.
 

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Now, if you're basing "mishandling of COVID" on how many people died, then that's the only way you've got a legit argument on whatever your stance seems to be and even then, it's kind of baseless. That ain't what this is about.

No, you want to continue this Red/Blue narrative.

What exactly do ya'll want the numbers to be? People are gonna get COVID. It's gonna happen.

And throughout the country the case are consistent with population size. Compared the list I posted with every state's population.

"Baseless" my ass, I'm just tired of this shyt ya'll spewing. Again, most covid cases are not in the South. You keep ignoring the shyt that don't go with the point you're trying to make. Illinious, Pennsly, Ohio, New Jersey...da fukk, man.

But, outside of lock people in their homes with martial law, people are gonna get the shyt.
 

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The south was settled by the most backward cacs from the British Isles. Basically everywhere the Romans didn’t make it to and bring some civilization is where the cacs who originally settled the South came from. Northern England, Scotland and Ireland. They were basically a bunch of lazy, but wild ass herdsmen, hunters and fighters. It’s why they needed Africans to do the hard work of farming that requires disciple.

This is why I'm a supporter of eugenics on racist CACs.
 

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No, you want to continue this Red/Blue narrative.

What exactly do ya'll want the numbers to be? People are gonna get COVID. It's gonna happen.

And throughout the country the case are consistent with population size. Compared the list I posted with every state's population.

"Baseless" my ass, I'm just tired of this shyt ya'll spewing. Again, most covid cases are not in the South. You keep ignoring the shyt that don't go with the point you're trying to make. Illinious, Pennsly, Ohio, New Jersey...da fukk, man.

But, outside of lock people in their homes with martial law, people are gonna get the shyt.

I said nothing about red vs. blue. All I said that was politics-related is that Southerners take their political affiliation down there more seriously than they do some familial ties.

Once you get past that and come off what appears to be a "Stop talking shyt about where I come from" wave, you might see the point. Doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but maybe you might see it. If not? Cool.

No one is arguing why the South has more cases. They clearly don't. You're right about that, the data says as much.

However, the basis of this thread -- which the thread-starter laid out in detail -- is why is the South's leadership not doing the absolute most it can to try and protect their people or at least slow down the spread of it compared to other regions. Based on what is being seen and reported... the South isn't doing enough to try and prevent anything. If the South fails on this, I'd rather they fail while trying as opposed to failing through inaction.
 

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As a non US resident I'm always taken aback by the amount of power governors wield within a federal system. They can basically tell the president to hold these nuts and go about their day with not much pressure being able to be applied other then decrease funding. I might simplify the scope of authority but when a national crisis emerges,how can states just ignore mandates by an elected president and go against policy with no regard for the safety and rights of the people in that state?

governors are essentially presidents of their states. america is a federation of states with a strong federal government. state laws cannot supersede federal law. I don't think any laws have been passed pertaining to this pandemic. each state is acting like individual countries making their own laws and mandates. some states make masks optional in businesses and government buildings and some states require that business patrons and people entering government buildings where masks. the president can only mandate through executive order over federal property and personnel. like bidens order for masks to be worn in federal buildings.
 

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Down south there are communities who feel like wearing a mask is Anti MAGA and makes you weak. You have to catch COVID and recover to be considered tough.
 
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