Why is Tony Dungy a lock 1st ballot HOFer?

[BonafideDefacto]

I was asking myself this this past weekend and without looking up stats I couldn't justify it.
Please answer my bullet-points:

• He only has 1 Super Bowl, does this make you HOF worthy regardless of L's
• Is he a product of Peyton Manning?
• I mean, people may argue BeliCheat being a product of Brady but Dungy's Colts aint shyt without Manning right?
• There defense was shyt in Indianapolis so is the Tampa Bay defensive guru rhetoric far fetched?
• Is he a safe pick for white people cause he's light skinned and ultra conservative Christian?
• People may say he made the shyttiest franchise of the 80's relevant, again, Peyton Manning?
• Again, don't give a coach credit for drafts, that's the GMs job; you don't give GMs credit for wins on gameday right?
• Couldn't win the big game. Manning eventually wins a SB without him but does he without Manning?
• Is he even the reason why Manning has only 1, I mean the Bucs never sealed the deal with him as coach. So the lack of a big game coach talk comes into play
• Cowher won 1 Super Bowl and was a successful coach but will never see the Hall, so why Dungy?

But then I looked at his regular season record...
139 - 69 .668
Amazing...

So I'm still somewhat on the fence and would have to compare him to coaches who aren't in the hall

Opinions?

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Tony Tung is the most overrated coach of the modern era.

John Harbaugh must be first ballot too

 

[malbaker86]

Yep. Having Manning at QB helped him obviously but his work, although sometimes unappreciated in TB, showed he could win without a top flight QB. I think he is.

 

[Supa]

How many black coaches came from the Dungy tree?

He was a winner and put black coaches on...first ballot.

 

[DrexlersFade]

First black coach to win the Super Bowl.

This ain't baseball.
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[krazykid18]

people forget how ass Manning was on the superbowl run probably the worst performance of a winning qb ever. that was the true definition of carried.

 

[Brozay]

Did he get the chance to seal the deal in Tampa?

He took one of the worst franchises in sports and had them as a perennial playoff team

Then went to Indy and won a title

Dungy had 1, ONE, losing season ever, and it was his first year in Tampa

 

[PortCityProphet]

He led that chocker Peyton to a ring. Nuff said

 

[Street Knowledge]

If a white coach had his winning percentage and a SB ring we are not having this discussion

 

[Texas2step]

I was asking myself this this past weekend and without looking up stats I couldn't justify it.
Please answer my bullet-points:

• He only has 1 Super Bowl, does this make you HOF worthy regardless of L's
• Is he a product of Peyton Manning?
• I mean, people may argue BeliCheat being a product of Brady but Dungy's Colts aint shyt without Manning right?
• There defense was shyt in Indianapolis so is the Tampa Bay defensive guru rhetoric far fetched?
• Is he a safe pick for white people cause he's light skinned and ultra conservative Christian?
• People may say he made the shyttiest franchise of the 80's relevant, again, Peyton Manning?
• Again, don't give a coach credit for drafts, that's the GMs job; you don't give GMs credit for wins on gameday right?
• Couldn't win the big game. Manning eventually wins a SB without him but does he without Manning?
• Is he even the reason why Manning has only 1, I mean the Bucs never sealed the deal with him as coach. So the lack of a big game coach talk comes into play
• Cowher won 1 Super Bowl and was a successful coach but will never see the Hall, so why Dungy?

But then I looked at his regular season record...
139 - 69 .668
Amazing...

So I'm still somewhat on the fence and would have to compare him to coaches who aren't in the hall

Opinions?

All of your points are invalid except the first one

 

[jadillac]

Look at the Dungy coaching tree

 

[Brozay]

If a white coach had his winning percentage and a SB ring we are not having this discussion

I dont think this discussion is even being had, hes gonna be a HOF'er at some point

Only knock would be that he didnt coach longer to pad win stats

 

[BonafideDefacto]

If a white coach had his winning percentage and a SB ring we are not having this discussion

nikka this is the coli, if a white coach had his winning percentage yall c00ns would be finding ways to discredit him

All of your points are invalid except the first one

breh they weren't points, I was asking questions for yall to answer. Those bullet points are the rhetoric against him not my direct opinion

 

[MikelArteta]

that gruden sb is half his as well

 

[BonafideDefacto]

HIS DEFENSE CARRIED THE COLTS TO THAT SB.
YOU BETTER DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
PEYTON WAS THE ONLY QB TO WIN A SB
WHILE THROWING MORE PICKS
THAN TDS IN A PLAYOFF RUN.


MANNING DIDNT WIN ANY SBS WITHOUT HIM...
HE THREW A GAME LOSING PICK 6 IN HIS 2ND SB
AND GOT 1 OF THE WORSE BEAT DOWNS EVER ON HIS 3RD SB.

HOW IS HE THE REASON MANNING ONLY HAS 1?



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point taken, like I said I was looking at it from an outside perspective with no research while looking for justification for him. This is why I asked the questions that naysayers would