Why isnt Martin considered a "new black" or "c00n" show?

[#SOG_soldier]

You going off in this thread with personal attacks. Im a good guy, CHILL. Coli always tells me that black girls hate nice guys with a passion...so you must be a black girl.

nikka im a dude get the fukk outta here you call other blacks niglets and you cape for white people

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

the 1st season martin was bytchmade as fukk


nikka was super p*ssy whooped


plus he did the shenaenae role a lil too well



tommy was suspect a lot too

some of his mannerisms were

 

[AquaCityBoy]

OP good job on your well written analysis of this show. Its amazing how people here all of a sudden abandon all of their anti-white supremacy rhetoric and put it all on the back burner when it comes to defending this show or anything else they like.

Ain't that the truth. nikkas were real quick to defend Ultimate Warrior's racist comments last year just because he was their childhood hero and he's dead.

 

[Sir Brehsington]

Cats forget the fact he was the co creator and one of the executive producers of his own show.

Named after him as well, Martin will personally eat off that series forever, as will his kids.

Other black sitcoms other than Cosbys didn't have that kind of leverage/royalties/ownership/creative control

So I salute and respect that.

 

[Versa]

Because we watched it as kids and weren't deep thinkers when we were laughing at it.

Still hilarious, but some stuff make me cringe. Shenaynay was half funny half c00ntastic.

That show has nothing on The Wayan's Brothers though. I watched the entire series again recently and there was some flat out shameful c00nery on there.

I remember one episode in particular where Shawn thought he was gonna be in a three some with two white women and wanted them to play the role of slave master while he was the slave

 

[hayesc0]

I think you make some good points but the show was never meant to be taken seriously in the first place. All the characters are over the top and most are clearly played by the same person.

 

[jwonder]

Difference is that Martin wasn't created for the enjoyment of white people. The jokes would go over their heads and it was really designed for us to poke fun at ourselves and laugh. Not c00n at all

Exactly. If you from that generation you definitely can relate to the characters he played cuz you would see the people like that every day in real life if you black. Ain't no white person know what an old head security guard like Otis was talking about. He reminds me of one of my uncles lol.

Furthermore. I don't know why y'all pay attention to this cac agent No Bammer Weed. He is gay party loving fagot.

I really wish I could meet him and whip his ass and put it up on you tube.

 

[Guile]

It was created and produced by black comedians.

All the comedy came from somewhere real.

I don't agree with your characterization of Martin or the other characters at all. Martin was a good friend, had a decent career, and was actually a decent part of his community.

 

[keon]

I've never met a black person that said they didn't like martin or thought the show wasn't funny..

 

[Cᵣₐₛₕ&ₜₕₑCₒᵤₚ]

Good inquiry OP, now I'm curious to see coherent refuted arguments without personal attacks ​

 

[Arithmetic]

 

[Houston911]

Cole, tommy, pam were good and honest people

 

[Mowgli]

Y'all keep acting like Martin is the pinnacle of black television achievement, and the "GOAT siticom" but Im surprised the show hasnt raised y'all ire given the coli militant standards, and yall collective ability to turn everything into degradation of the black race:

The central character is Martin, who is unserious, unfocused, unintelligent and lives so far off on the economic margins that he can only afford a modest apt in a low income area of detroit, which could be a housing project if you look at the building and those who live there hard enough.

Martin, of course, plays a host of characters who are all dumber than the next. One is a female named 'Sheneneh' (black male emasculation? gay agenda?), who seems to be written with the sole intent of maxing out on every bad black woman stereotype ever invented.

His two best friends are Cole and Tommy. The former is a barely functioning retard, and the latter is best known for not having a job.

Martin's girlfriend is Gina, who enjoyed the best written character on the show. She's extremely bright, and the only one thats clearly college educated. She's successful, not promiscuous, logical, the emotional and moral anchor in almost every situation, and always the voice of reason amongst a sea of idiots. And also not so coincidentally she was the lightest person on the show --- her skin so light in fact she was practically racially ambiguous.

Pam is Gina's best friend. Her character isnt too offensive, but she was clearly written to serve as Gina's inferior and chosen as Martin's foil for a reason. She gets by on her sex appeal and little else --- certainly not her integrity, which is always painted as being low to non-existent.

The rest of the show is filled out by a motley crew of aimless low lifes --- bruh man? hustle man? Stan, the station manager at WZUP????

I know its just a show designed for jokes, but logic like that hasnt stopped ya'll before. What gives?

Youve been raised around to many whites.

 

[ridedolo]

Ehh I can see where you're going but let's look at facts:

Martin and Gina showed black love. Yes Gina is very lightskin and represents a certain issue within our community, but she's clearly black. And from lil shop of horrors, to the house party movies, to martin and after- she's always related to the black community.
Both were successful. Didn't have children.
Tommy and Pam- neither were struggling. Tommy was intelligent and respectful. pam was smart, sexy, a good singer, and mad funny. Towards the end they even gave her a music industry role. She definitely did not play the now typical angry black woman.

Cole was the typical harmless dumb friend.

Shenaynay represented a certain type of hood chick, but hell, even she owned her own business.

Not c00nish imo

 

[jwonder]

Ehh I can see where you're going but let's look at facts:

Martin and Gina showed black love. Yes Gina is very lightskin and represents a certain issue within our community, but she's clearly black. And from lil shop of horrors, to the house party movies, to martin and after- she's always related to the black community.
Both were successful. Didn't have children.
Tommy and Pam- neither were struggling. Tommy was intelligent and respectful. pam was smart, sexy, a good singer, and mad funny. Towards the end they even gave her a music industry role. She definitely did not play the now typical angry black woman.

Cole was the typical harmless dumb friend.

Shenaynay represented a certain type of hood chick, but hell, even she owned her own business.

Not c00nish imo

End thread. You hit every fukking point on the head. If we talking about Wayne Brady with being new black and c00n then I can't say shyt.

Martin had that comedy that black people understood. Can't tell you how many white folks at work be like what did he mean when he said this or that.