Why @Mephistopheles is wrong about Jim Crow, segregation and what Coli militants want

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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/blac...ring-the-jim-crow-era-the-coli.456291/page-16

"Because, um welfare and integration and (some shyt about single mothers and feminism)."

Who came up with that dumb shyt?

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@Mephistopheles thread's title is a misrepresentation of Coli's militant views. Coli militants never say black people were unequivocally "better off during the Jim Crow era". You're arguing against a claim we never made is a STRAWMAN.

What Coli militants ACTUALLY CLAIM is that certain aspects of the segregation era and segregation itself is better for black people than the integration alternative. This is a nuanced view, not a wholesale one which promulgates everything which occurred during Jim Crow was "better for black people" (particularly poverty). What Coli militants CLAIM is that segregation itself was and is good for black people, as it led to better marriage rates, Black Wall Street, better black families, more race loyalty, etc. Coli militants NEVER SAID AND NEVER SAY that poverty was and is good for blacks. Where Mephistopheles makes his mistake is in assuming Coli Militants say things they never said, and in presuming that segregation means poverty.

Contrary to Mephistopheles' hidden assertions, black segregation itself does not imply or mean poverty anymore than Sweden's segregation has meant poverty or Japan's segregation has meant poverty. Just like poverty does not mean poverty in all white neighborhoods or in North Dakota, segregation does not mean or imply poverty for BLACKS either. Assuming such is wrongheaded thinking. Thus, in recognition of all black segregation offers--in addition to a chance to be wealthy and successful--Coli militants believe segregation is black people's best option.
 

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@Mephistopheles is usually right though.

This is, like, your opinion, which doesn't amount to much. @Mephistopheles is often wrong and, as I explain above, he is wrong about what Coli Militants believe and even what segregation entails. He posted a chart about poverty like segregation = poverty. What is the point of posting such a chart when some of the most prosperous countries and people on Earth are segregated and have been for thousands of years?

I mean if segregation causes poverty, how the fukk does every non-black race have segregated countries, villages, and neighborhoods full of rich inhabitants?
 

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the issue aint integration vs segregation

it shoulda been aggregation.. thats pooling resources together to make things happen

cause since then we went from 2nd class to 4th class citizens... we now behind the asians and hispanics...

social integration aint mutually exclusive from economic independence...

the boomers didnt have to give up what was passed down to them, they CHOSE to do it...
 

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This really required a new thread? :mjlol:

Yes, because I won't let your spread your unsubstantiated opinion and go uncontested. You might actually convince some people you're right when you are the farthest from it. You should respond to my counterarguments rather than focus on attacking me. Ad hominem just undermines your argument and presupposes you don't have any arguments to substantiate your opinion.
 

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Yes, because I won't let your spread your unsubstantiated opinion and go uncontested. You might actually convince some people you're right when you are the farthest from it. You should respond to my counterarguments rather than focus on attacking me. Ad hominem just undermines your argument and presupposes you don't have any arguments to substantiate your opinion.
I'll respond to you...in the proper thread. Who the fukk makes a new thread about an existing thread topic just to attention-whore about their own opinion? You ain't special muhfukka. Mods lock this bullshyt.
 

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I'll respond to you...in the proper thread. Who the fukk makes a new thread about an existing thread topic just to attention-whore about their opinion? You ain't special muhfukka. Mods lock this bullshyt.

I made this thread specifically to challenge your thread and have you address me. I don't see why this thread is any less valid than any other thread. It's basically just another challenge thread. Reply where you want.
 
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