Why Not Voting Doesn't Work, especially if you want "tangibles"

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That's cool, I don't want Trump in office but I do not support the politicians in NY or NYC.
I don't either, but I'm willing to suffer his potential bullshyt short term for a long term win. As long as the DNC tactics work, they'll keep running them. They're never going to change without failing at the top level.
 
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Can someone find pundits from their group brow beating their methodology?
They actually voted tho, and they're not getting any "tangibles" in exchange. All they get is a clear conscience.


I understand there's an overlap in strategy, but the pretext is completely different. The US is supplying Israel weapons amd has vetoed multiple calls from the majority of the world for a ceasefire. Their effort is part of a worldwide push to end the carbage, not domestic policy for themselves
 

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They actually voted tho, and they're not getting any "tangibles" in exchange. All they get is a clear conscience.


I understand there's an overlap in strategy, but the pretext is completely different. The US is supplying Israel weapons amd has vetoed multiple calls from the majority of the world for a ceasefire. Their effort is part of a worldwide push to end the carbage, not domestic policy for themselves
Yeah there's always gonna be a presumed more sophisticated and justifiable reason for other groups doing the same things as ADOS folks.
 

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I don't either, but I'm willing to suffer his potential bullshyt short term for a long term win. As long as the DNC tactics work, they'll keep running them. They'renever going to change without failing at the top level.

The thing is Trump is no different than any other Republican out there. He is just more overt and not covert.

For these idiots to think the other Republicans are more safe than Trump is fukking laughable. :heh:

To be honest George W. Bush was way more dangerous than Trump. And caused more of a destructive effect on the country than Trump.
 
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Yeah there's always gonna be a presumed more sophisticated and justifiable reason for other groups doing the same things as ADOS folks.
The "ADOS" strategy is to hold your vote/vote downballot for something in exchange. What are these people getting in exchange?
 

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I don't either, but I'm willing to suffer his potential bullshyt short term for a long term win. As long as the DNC tactics work, they'll keep running them. They'renever going to change without failing at the top level.
I understand your line of thinking

In my lifetime the Dems have bungled:

- Roe v Wade (Dumbass RBG didn't want to retire when Obama had the ability to replace her and stack the courts with Justices that would uphold the established law)

- Affirmative Action (This shyt benefitted White Women more than anything but ANY thing that gave Black people a leg up in this country shouldn't be struck down even if CAC women were the biggest beneficiaries)

They blinked when it came to Universal Healthcare and they're probably about to drop the ball on Social Security too.

But womanhood and manhood has been reduced to an aesthetic and a man can call another man his husband so I should vote for more failure and half measures that do not benefit me or else I'm "selfish" or a "bigot"?

Pfft...ok cool, run with that feeling

Eventually the Democratic Party is going to have a serious wake up call and all of this performative bullshyt that spits in the face of your average American is going to come back to haunt them.

They're actually really lucky that Trump is a moron. If the GOP gets a Trump that is more polished and can rationalize the country tearing itself apart, we're done.
 

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As long as they can instill fear in you to keep going along, nothing will change
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I understand what you're saying, but it's not what Dems are saying that I'm on edge about, it's the words out of Trumps own mouth. The words and actions from his followers.

If this was Bush, Reagan, hell even DeSantis, then we can talk, but this is a cult of white majority ignorant emotion that has been bottled up, shaken, and exploding all over the country, including the very framework the country was built on. Numerous of them are on record wanting him to be king.

I just don't think the current climate is the best time to do it. But hey, I could be wrong.
 

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Sounds like ADOS "actually voted" to me. :jbhmm:
I included vote downballot. I'm still not sure what they're getting in exchange. That's the premise right? Their material lives aren't changing with a ceasefire. Again I get the overlap but this is a bad example. These are people acting on world interest-- not self interest.
 

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I included vote downballot. I'm still not sure what they're getting in exchange. That's the premise right? Their material lives aren't changing with a ceasefire. Again I get the overlap but this is a bad example. These are people acting on world interest-- not self interest.
So you retract the
They actually voted tho

Statement in your original comment. :jbhmm:
 
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