Why Socrates Hated Democracy

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:jbhmm::mjpls: i hear him...

but who can judge what is acceptable wisdom

whats HL thoughts on this argument
 

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I agree with his base premise, the citizenry must be educated on how to properly select leadership. What is the proper education? How can it be taught?

This idea essentially leads to what we consider as tyranny when we feel only a small group of people are "skilled" enough to determine who leads.

Interesting conversation though.

EDIT: It also shines a light on the state of our current democracy because of a lack of education and awareness.
 

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We've moved towards fewer requirements to vote, not more.

Requirements are impediments, and impediments inevitably have disparate impacts on different groups. And that just won't fly in America today. At least most of America.

I do agree with the premise that some people are too dumb to vote, and that's a problem with democracy, but I think the problem is inexorable. Still, no form of government is perfect.
 

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The premise of people needing to educated to vote or pass some educational requirement will lead to a meritocracy inevitability. There will always be the chasm between the haves and have nots. I think the election system should be a basic and constant requirement for youth, similar to how math is taught at each level. Work at the most basic level and work your way up at each grade level. Properly educate people on the power they have, instead of constructing some rule or requirement.
 

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One truly inescapable rule of life is that you have to take the good with the bad. Vaccines and airplanes? Science is awesome! Nuclear weapons and germ warfare? Hmm not so much.

Allowing greater participation by the people - no matter how ignorant they may be - is the price that elites/ruling class pay to avoid constant warfare and disruption of social/economic order.
 

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I agree with his base premise, the citizenry must be educated on how to properly select leadership. What is the proper education? How can it be taught?

This idea essentially leads to what we consider as tyranny when we feel only a small group of people are "skilled" enough to determine who leads.

Interesting conversation though.

EDIT: It also shines a light on the state of our current democracy because of a lack of education and awareness.

We're not a Democracy. We're a Constitutional Republic. There is a big difference between the two.
 
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