Why the Bryan/Punk hate?

[El Cocodrilo]

Who gives a fukk if they ain't Rock/Hogan/Austin level... do you know how huge a star someone has to be to be on that level? If that's the case, then I guess fukk everybody who was ever over.

All true, but I don't think they're not even at the level that they have the potential to reach because of the decisions that are consistently made by the company.

Plus these two fukkers have main evented A LOT of ppvs...theyve been MULTIPLE TIME CHAMPIONS....WTF DO you all want? theyre not being WRONGED..Jake roberts and ted dibiase would dream of having their careers.

CM Punk is a multiple time World Heavyweight Champion in an era where that belt is meaningless. Daniel Bryan and CM Punk, and you and I and everyone in the audience is wronged every time someone from WWE goes on record saying all they do is listen to the fans; yet they turn around and just do whatever they think is best. If all they did was listen to the fans, how are the two champs Cena and Orton in 2013?
Cena is feuding with Del Rio. Orton is feuding with The Big Show.

That shyt is mad wrong in my humble opinion

 

[Riley Escobar]

That ratings shyt is just message board trash... WWF was doing the same numbers they are now back in "our beloved 1997" that everybody says was so great. Know why we think it's great? Cause we didn't give a fukk about a segment-by-segment or quarter-hour rating breakdown.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Don't you know, most dudes don't have an original thought in their mind so they just troll whatever people like.

It's an easy way to "stand out"

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

CM Punk is a multiple time World Heavyweight Champion in an era where that belt is meaningless. Daniel Bryan and CM Punk, and you and I and everyone in the audience is wronged every time someone from WWE goes on record saying all they do is listen to the fans; yet they turn around and just do whatever they think is best. If all they did was listen to the fans, how are the two champs Cena and Orton in 2013?

If the belts don't matter why do you care if/when daniel bryan and cm punk get the belt or their standing on the card? Why don't their fans just enjoy their matches like I used to Jake Roberts and Rick Rude and Pre Raw Chris Jericho?

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Don't you know, most dudes don't have an original thought in their mind so they just troll whatever people like.

It's an easy way to "stand out"

QFMFT

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

And BTW, the people turning on both of them were most likely not riding with them in the first place

 

[Skip b]

Easily the weirdest thing I've seen happen on here...

But I knew the Bryan shyt would happen eventually when I saw how nikkas turned on Punk. Because apparently, it's still 1998 and the weekly ratings matter to regular "fans".

Lets not act like Punk or Bryan is 98 talent status


Would Bryan have lasted without Kane, and the same goes with Punk and Heyman, not to mention they both are vanilla midgets and is unbelievable beating down the whole fukking roster in one night.....

 

[Riley Escobar]

Lets not act like Punk or Bryan is 98 talent status

So Punk and Bryan couldn't have been 98 talent status but Ken Shamrock, D'Lo Brown and Val Venis were?

Would Bryan have lasted without Kane, and the same goes with Punk and Heyman

Both of them were over and putting classics on LONG before they were paired up with those two.

 

[Grifter]

Happens to every wrestler.

 

[Skip b]

So Punk and Bryan couldn't have been 98 talent status but Ken Shamrock, D'Lo Brown and Val Venis were?





Both of them were over and putting classics on LONG before they were paired up with those two.

Top talent I was talking about, it's funny you chose midcarders to compare Bryan and Punk to though because thats exactly what I see them as


What classics has Punk and D Bry been in post Kane and Post Heyman, where are these classic promos and such, i'll wait.....

 

[DANJ!]

Lets not act like Punk or Bryan is 98 talent status


Would Bryan have lasted without Kane, and the same goes with Punk and Heyman, not to mention they both are vanilla midgets and is unbelievable beating down the whole fukking roster in one night.....

But that's the problem just like homie said earlier... I ain't actin' like they're anything '98 cause this ain't fukkin '98. The Monday Night War been over for 12 years, ratings don't mean shyt to me unless they're close to being canceled, Punk ain't Austin and Bryan ain't the Rock... I'm OK with that. Austin and Rock weren't even Austin and Rock at one point. These two are great in their own right, I don't care if they don't remind me of muhfukkas I liked when I was a teenager. They're not supposed to.

 

[Riley Escobar]

Top talent I was talking about, it's funny you chose midcarders to compare Bryan and Punk to though because thats exactly what I see them as

Already been addressed. Keep up.

Who gives a fukk if they ain't Rock/Hogan/Austin level... do you know how huge a star someone has to be to be on that level? If that's the case, then I guess fukk everybody who was ever over. If they weren't on the same level as the three biggest draws in all of wrestling history who sparked boom periods in the business, what does that have to do with whether they're great or not?

What classics has Punk and D Bry been in post Kane and Post Heyman, where are these classic promos and such, i'll wait.....

What the fukk are you talking about? You made the statement that without Kane and Heyman both Punk and Bryan "wouldn't have lasted", despite getting over long before they both turned up. That has exactly zero relevance to how they've been performing in the last few months.

 

[El Cocodrilo]

If the belts don't matter why do you care if/when daniel bryan and cm punk get the belt or their standing on the card? Why don't their fans just enjoy their matches like I used to Jake Roberts and Rick Rude and Pre Raw Chris Jericho?

I'm only speaking for myself here, but I do enjoy each one of their matches.
What I'm saying is that the most talented dudes not getting their due is just symptomatic of the whole fukked up way the entire show is run top to bottom most of the time these days.
I only bring up ratings because people try to blame the low ratings on Bryan or Punk.

Anyway, it's a message board so where better for people to express their opinions?

 

[Skip b]

Already been addressed. Keep up.





What the fukk are you talking about? You made the statement that without Kane and Heyman both Punk and Bryan "wouldn't have lasted", despite getting over long before they both turned up. That has exactly zero relevance to how they've been performing in the last few months.

Punk had one good promo, then he went from,

................................to.........................................to................... then Heyman saved his ass





Bry was ok but nobody to bet your house, he was a guy with a cheesy celebration that could get pops, and funny solid guy in the right position, not no face of the company type guy. Then Kane came along and pushed him over the edge, since then crickets and demoted to mid card where he belong..........

 

[Riley Escobar]

Punk had one good promo, then he went from,

................................to.........................................to................... then Heyman saved his ass


Bry was ok but nobody to bet your house, he was a guy with a cheesy celebration that could get pops, and funny solid guy in the right position, not no face of the company type guy.

But you were saying they would both have been finished without the support. So which is it? Was Bryan "a funny solid guy who could get pops" or a "vanilla midget who wouldn't have lasted without Kane"?