Why the hell do lower middle class an middle class white people think Trump winning would help them?

[OG Talk]

We don't have to elect a champion of white supremacy to do so. If that weren't the only other choice I'd be right with you. For the record I did not vote for Obama in 2012 so I'm not just talking shyt. If the GOP put up anybody with a shred of competence and sanity it would be a no brainer. But even Hillary "Superpredator" Clinton is better than Donald "Central Park 40 Million" Trump

You are talking in huge generalities.... I'm just talking about this election. Electing Donald Trump is not going to help black people any more than electing Hillary Clinton

I'm not advocating electing Trump... I would never vote for him or Hilary.

I'm just saying if Trump wins we don't have to live in fear. There are huge opportunities to fundamentally rearrange the function of government in our lives..

But this is all futile anyway. Hilary will win and the status quo will continue...



And FYI.. Every president that we've ever had in this country has been a "Champion of White Supremacy".. Even the one with the nice jump shot that hangs out with all the rappers...

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I'm not advocating electing Trump... I would never vote for him or Hilary.

I'm just saying if Trump wins we don't have to live in fear. There are huge opportunities to fundamentally rearrange the function of government in our lives...

Trump is talking about making stop and frisk nation wide and calling on his supporters to intimidate black people from voting at the polls.

You are definitely right that there will be huge opportunities to fundamentally rearrange the function of govt in our lives with Trump or Clinton.... the difference is with Trump we will have to squander those opportunities just to get BACK to the status quo, rather than advance from it He is aligned with white supremacists in an explicit way we haven't seen in decades, and his election would give them outright political credibility. They'd go from operating in the shadows to being an out and about political party. No thanks.

But this is all futile anyway. Hilary will win and the status quo will continue...



And FYI.. Every president that we've ever had in this country has been a "Champion of White Supremacy".. Even the one with the nice jump shot that hangs out with all the rappers...

None in recent history have ever championed it as blatantly as Trump. If you don't think there's a meaningful difference in Trump and Clinton's allegiance to groups like the KKK and the alt-right we might as well agree to disagree.

 

[CASHAPP]

We don't have to elect a champion of white supremacy to do so. If that weren't the only other choice I'd be right with you. For the record I did not vote for Obama in 2012 so I'm not just talking shyt. If the GOP put up anybody with a shred of competence and sanity it would be a no brainer. But even Hillary "Superpredator" Clinton is better than Donald "Central Park 40 Million" Trump

You are talking in huge generalities.... I'm just talking about this election. Electing Donald Trump is not going to help black people any more than electing Hillary Clinton

We explain it to you guys over and over again and yall still dont get it....

IF HILLARY WINS we wont be motivated...what is so difficult to understand about that? Could any other group focus on group economics without having to wish for motivation? Sure....but we are stubborn as fukk and Trump is the ONLY way we will learn.

We aren't saying to actually vote for the guy. Because if you do your a c00n. Just saying its if he ends up being elected. Big difference between saying we gonna vote for him and saying we hope he wins.

I dont get what is so hard for you guys to get about that....

And before you bring up Reagan....with Reagan the perception(whether true or not) is his policies primarily affected mainly younger Black people. Along with the fact that the Congressional Black Caucus at the time was one of the biggest supporters of those devastating drug laws and sentencing laws. Something they "claim" they regret.

Yet even then when the media romanticizes Reagan's legacy as they always do, you dont hear or see those older Black people call him out...

Bottom line...alot agreed with and still agree with what he did in his era. And with Bill Clinton we know the story with him already...

Someone like a Donald Trump, Blacks of all ages including the elder fear him even more because his white supremacy is more blatant and reminds them of the 50s. They are scared now EVERYONE of them is gonna have to go through what the youth has gone through. They know they cant pull that "pull yourselves up by the bootstraps" nonsense with us anymore

They are at an age right now where they just want to keep up the peace and status quo...look at the video of Jim Brown the other day on NBATV when he was c00ning. Thats the mentality alot of them have had for years. They are afraid of the change and no they wont be able to sit around anymore and enjoy their retirements...

If Trump stops fukking around and wins...watch the HBCU enrollments, Black bank enrollments, etc all go up. We need a national nikka wake up call. Its time.

 

[greenygreen]

It's easier for people to think they can get together but what binds them after you get the anti-establishment stuff out of the way? Trump's promise to cut 70 to 80% of regulations or Heritage Foundation approved judges. The political system requires building coalitions that have disparate interests, some people buy into 50 or 60% of what Sanders believe others a 100% , however for any of the policies to be realized it requires coalition building and often the coalition resides in the establishment of both parties. The division has long been part of the American system and it stems from the people themselves. The Republicans will not say anything about punishing big businesses that hire illegals but will target the illegals because they know they wont get far blaming some white executive at a large agricultural firm or a white farmer employing illegals.

You talking from a politicians perspective, when people unite there will be no politicians perspective we make the terms, the same way the bankers make the terms now, the politicians are puppets who will bend the to the most powerful force, it's strength in numbers

 

[OG Talk]

Trump is talking about making stop and frisk nation wide and calling on his supporters to intimidate black people from voting at the polls.

You are definitely right that there will be huge opportunities to fundamentally rearrange the function of govt in our lives with Trump or Clinton.... the difference is with Trump we will have to squander those opportunities just to get BACK to the status quo, rather than advance from it He is aligned with white supremacists in an explicit way we haven't seen in decades, and his election would give them outright political credibility. They'd go from operating in the shadows to being an out and about political party. No thanks.


None in recent history have ever championed it as blatantly as Trump. If you don't think there's a meaningful difference in Trump and Clinton's allegiance to groups like the KKK and the alt-right we might as well agree to disagree.

Yeah Trump says a lot of sh1t.

So did Obama.



I guess we'll agree to disagree.. The fear campaign has clearly been affective on you.. And I'm not just calling you out specifically. I realize I'm a minority opinion and a "man without a country" in this discussion. I assume the poll lines to vote for Hilary on Nov. 8 will look like the BET Awards... I know plenty of my friends and family will be lined up.. Still love them, just disagree...

 

[CASHAPP]

Trump is talking about making stop and frisk nation wide and calling on his supporters to intimidate black people from voting at the polls.

You are definitely right that there will be huge opportunities to fundamentally rearrange the function of govt in our lives with Trump or Clinton.... the difference is with Trump we will have to squander those opportunities just to get BACK to the status quo, rather than advance from it He is aligned with white supremacists in an explicit way we haven't seen in decades, and his election would give them outright political credibility. They'd go from operating in the shadows to being an out and about political party. No thanks.


None in recent history have ever championed it as blatantly as Trump. If you don't think there's a meaningful difference in Trump and Clinton's allegiance to groups like the KKK and the alt-right we might as well agree to disagree.

Son...how will a Trump presidency stop us from practicing group economics? HOW?

Have you noticed East Asians and Indians are the one group neither the media, the Democrats, or Republicans ever talk about courting? Why do you think that is?

And who are the top 2 demographics in this nation known to have the best family structure and finances?

People always talk about Black people not voting(and Hispanics vote even less than them) and yet Asian and Indian voters definitely vote far less than them. Are they having devastating consequences? Stop being scared of whitey and practice group economics. I wont say that is all we have to do but that is one big first step.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

We explain it to you guys over and over again and yall still dont get it....

IF HILLARY WINS we wont be motivated...what is so difficult to understand about that? Could any other group focus on group economics without having to wish for motivation? Sure....but we are stubborn as fukk and Trump is the ONLY way we will learn.

We aren't saying to actually vote for the guy. Because if you do your a c00n. Just saying its if he ends up being elected. Big difference between saying we gonna vote for him and saying we hope he wins.

I dont get what is so hard for you guys to get about that....

And before you bring up Reagan....with Reagan the perception(whether true or not) is his policies primarily affected mainly younger Black people. Along with the fact that the Congressional Black Caucus at the time was one of the biggest supporters of those devastating drug laws and sentencing laws. Something they "claim" they regret.

Yet even then when the media romanticizes Reagan's legacy as they always do, you dont hear or see those older Black people call him out...

Bottom line...alot agreed with and still agree with what he did in his era. And with Bill Clinton we know the story with him already...

Someone like a Donald Trump, Blacks of all ages including the elder fear him even more because his white supremacy is more blatant and reminds them of the 50s. They are scared now EVERYONE of them is gonna have to go through what the youth has gone through. They know they cant pull that "pull yourselves up by the bootstraps" nonsense with us anymore

They are at an age right now where they just want to keep up the peace and status quo...look at the video of Jim Brown the other day on NBATV when he was c00ning. Thats the mentality alot of them have had for years. They are afraid of the change and no they wont be able to sit around anymore and enjoy their retirements...

If Trump stops fukking around and wins...watch the HBCU enrollments, Black bank enrollments, etc all go up. We need a national nikka wake up call. Its time.

Breh we have to be honest. Reagan didn't motivate us. Bush I and II didn't motivate us. Clinton's mass incarceration program didn't motivate us. Obama putting illegal immigrants ahead of us and excluding us from the economic recovery didn't motivate us. Trump won't either.

And like I said there is already a lot of work already being done. I see it, I help do it. Let's not discount that or its effectiveness Showing kids they have options is much more productive than.... well, whatever the fukk you think will come from a Trump election.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yeah Trump says a lot of sh1t.

So did Obama.



I guess we'll agree to disagree.. The fear campaign has clearly been affective on you.. And I'm not just calling you out specifically. I realize I'm a minority opinion and a "man without a country" in this discussion. I assume the poll lines to vote for Hilary on Nov. 8 will look like the BET Awards... I know plenty of my friends and family will be lined up.. Still love them, just disagree...

A vote for Hillary isn't an endorsement of her as a champion for black people or anything really besides her being a better choice than any of the other candidates

Trump may be all talk but talk still matters. Talk from the president has clout even if it doesn't lead to executive action

 

[CASHAPP]

Breh we have to be honest. Reagan didn't motivate us. Bush I and II didn't motivate us. Clinton's mass incarceration program didn't motivate us. Obama putting illegal immigrants ahead of us and excluding us from the economic recovery didn't motivate us. Trump won't either.

And like I said there is already a lot of work already being done. I see it, I help do it. Let's not discount that or its effectiveness Showing kids they have options is much more productive than.... well, whatever the fukk you think will come from a Trump election.

But you just cosigned my entire point without realizing it breh....

Clinton's mass incarceration didn't motivate "us" because it mainly affected younger Black people and we aren't the entire Black population. Obama putting illegal immigrants ahead of us didn't motivate "us" because our parents and grandparents still called us lazy and said hispanics are the hardest working and were putting on their capes for hispanics. Your only proving my argument right.

But were OLDER Black people afraid of Reagan or Bush 1 and Bush 2 or Clinton like they are with Trump? The answer is no they werent scared of any of them. When they and other people were saying "Oh no another Bush" they werent thinking anything to do with race. Them shaking in their boots over Trump is a tell tale sign.

They know for the first time they are in the midst of a revolution and they are afraid cause they dont know anything besides marching and singing we shall overcome.

 

[OG Talk]

A vote for Hillary isn't an endorsement of her as a champion for black people or anything really besides her being a better choice than any of the other candidates

Trump may be all talk but talk still matters. Talk from the president has clout even if it doesn't lead to executive action

You don't have to explain yourself breh..

Vote your conscious

 

[CASHAPP]

Yeah Trump says a lot of sh1t.

So did Obama.



I guess we'll agree to disagree.. The fear campaign has clearly been affective on you.. And I'm not just calling you out specifically. I realize I'm a minority opinion and a "man without a country" in this discussion. I assume the poll lines to vote for Hilary on Nov. 8 will look like the BET Awards... I know plenty of my friends and family will be lined up.. Still love them, just disagree...

Unless something changes from now to a week from now to benefit Trump, I already have it planned to walk out the house after 7 and go somewhere else. I cant be around family and hear the stupid ass cheering for Hiltron talking about "GO HILLARY!" "first female president!"

 

[TTT]

You talking from a politicians perspective, when people unite there will be no politicians perspective we make the terms, the same way the bankers make the terms now, the politicians are puppets who will bend the to the most powerful force, it's strength in numbers

Bankers have far more common interests than a large group of people with diverse political opinions. Registered independents outnumber both registered Democrats and Republicans but they will never have a common candidate to rally behind and just wind up voting for the party they think best represents some of their views and against the one that doesn't hold their view. There have been many opportunities for poor people to unite regardless of class and they haven't because they fail to see through past their own identity issues.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

But you just cosigned my entire point without realizing it breh....

Clinton's mass incarceration didn't motivate "us" because it mainly affected younger Black people and we aren't the entire Black population. Obama putting illegal immigrants ahead of us didn't motivate "us" because our parents and grandparents still called us lazy and said hispanics are the hardest working and were putting on their capes for hispanics. Your only proving my argument right.

But were OLDER Black people afraid of Reagan or Bush 1 and Bush 2 or Clinton like they are with Trump? The answer is no they werent scared of any of them. When they and other people were saying "Oh no another Bush" they werent thinking anything to do with race. Them shaking in their boots over Trump is a tell tale sign.

They know for the first time they are in the midst of a revolution and they are afraid cause they dont know anything besides marching and singing we shall overcome.

You nikkas with this revolution bullshyt.... hashtags and memes aren't a revolution breh. And even without Trump those older black folks would vote D down the line. Plus let's REALLY not pretend like this is the first election in a long time where race wasn't a factor in how people voted for the president

If black people need some outside catalyst to motivate us to get what's ours and what's right we deserve to fail. I'm not gonna vote for someone I feel is going to do black people harm in the *HOPE* that Trump will make things so awful we finally "wake up". That is fukking idiotic

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Unless something changes from now to a week from now to benefit Trump, I already have it planned to walk out the house after 7 and go somewhere else. I cant be around family and hear the stupid ass cheering for Hiltron talking about "GO HILLARY!" "first female president!"

Move out ya momma house nikka

 

[CASHAPP]

Move out ya momma house nikka

rENT IS TOO HIGH

You nikkas with this revolution bullshyt.... hashtags and memes aren't a revolution breh. And even without Trump those older black folks would vote D down the line. Plus let's REALLY not pretend like this is the first election in a long time where race wasn't a factor in how people voted for the president

If black people need some outside catalyst to motivate us to get what's ours and what's right we deserve to fail. I'm not gonna vote for someone I feel is going to do black people harm in the *HOPE* that Trump will make things so awful we finally "wake up". That is fukking idiotic

didnt i just tell you im not saying to vote for trump? are you even listening? I stated your a c00n if you vote for trump