Why the Vietnam War never got the COD/BF Stimulus

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Outside a spinoff for Bad Company, Black Ops 1 and BF Vietnam, Vietnam always seem like a touchie subject concerning video games, as its either modern warfare or WW2 (WW1 finally got its due with GOATlefield 1), but somehow Vietnam never was a huge focus in the big two. I mean, imagine a dark Vietnam setting with alternate storylines, chaos, a GOATed story mode, the works.

Imagine that frost bite engine with modern tech.

But on the real, why Modern and WW2 was always a big focal point concerning FPS war shooters, versus Vietnam where the games are far and inbetween (also good to ass).

 

[42 Monks]

the vietnam BF was the best one lol

and there was a period where damn near every 'grounded' shooter was in the jungle. it got played out for our age group - these new kids trying to kill zombies, emote in the killcam, and call in UAVs man not look for landmines

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

the vietnam BF was the best one lol

and there was a period where damn near every 'grounded' shooter was in the jungle. it got played out for our age group - these new kids trying to kill zombies, emote in the killcam, and call in UAVs man not look for landmines

Man, there's something about trenches settings that hit harder than getting 100 killshots with a busted gun .Battlefield 1 still gets the marsupial hyped with the demonic dark setting that's lacking nowadays in FPS games.

Imagine a Vietnam game with the setting of Apocalypse Now . The closest we ever got to such a masterpiece is Spec Ops: The Line, despite being based in Afghanistan had that environment down to a tee.

Man so much money is being left on the table

 

[MajesticLion]

1. Same reason no studio will touch Korea. Same reason the WW2 Pacific campaign never gets any serious traction. Romanticizing the Euro-centric is central to every portrayal.

2. How many places can they pretend they're winning without a PR backlash? The profit motive means mass appeal.

 

[daemonova]

1. Same reason no studio will touch Korea. Same reason the WW2 Pacific campaign never gets any serious traction. Romanticizing the Euro-centric is central to every portrayal.

2. How many places can they pretend they're winning without a PR backlash? The profit motive means mass appeal.

World at War was the best MP they ever had (imO), it went down hill from there

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

WW2 makes Americans feel like captain america

kinda hard to rationalize the other subsequent wars in the same way

 

[Nero Christ]

Making a grimy Vietnam war game means you gotta touch on US political corruption, killing innocent civilians, casual racism, use of chemical weapons, and the protest against the war. Given these topics and how these war games tend to attract these future MAGA voting white boys...they'd be calling the game "DEI" & "woke" before even playing it and being completely unaware of history.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Making a grimy Vietnam war game means you gotta touch on US political corruption, killing innocent civilians, casual racism, use of chemical weapons, and the protest against the war. Given these topics and how these war games tend to attract these future MAGA voting white boys...they'd be calling the game "DEI" & "woke" before even playing it and being completely unaware of history.

True, but it can have a big gotcha near the end of the game to make the MAGAts go

Sort of like the ending of Spec Ops: The Line where you were killing for nothing. And MGS3 involving that river of souls that you took before you got to the boss.

Its tiresome to go the point A to Point B line of gaming, when a decade and change ago, the games were telling a powerful story of what's wrong with society. No different from a movie, but somehow we will never get to that level once again because corporate greed and microtransactions.

 

[Nero Christ]

True, but it can have a big gotcha near the end of the game to make the MAGAts go

Sort of like the ending of Spec Ops: The Line where you were killing for nothing. And MGS3 involving that river of souls that you took before you got to the boss.

Its tiresome to go the point A to Point B line of gaming, when a decade and change ago, the games were telling a powerful story of what's wrong with society. No different from a movie, but somehow we will never get to that level once again because corporate greed and microtransactions.

Unfortunately, their minds are too corrupted with bs to be introspective & empathetic.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

If you know what America actually did to civilians in the Vietnam war+the fact that we were the aggressors(gulf of tonkin incident was the equivalent of 'Iraq has weapons of mass destruction') you know there's no way most studios will touch that. America had sophisticated weaponry and was fighting farmers with cheap assault rifles, improvised and outdated explosives and traps. It was asymmetrical, america still somehow took an L, and it was one of the first major strikes to America's soft power and global reputation.

World war 2 was clear cut, and the Germans were more of a match technologically.

 

[Him]

BFBC2 did Vietnam right though



This shyt brings tears to my eyes…


TAKE ME BACK

 

[Saint1]

There were no redeeming qualities about the Vietnam war.

Iraq/Afghanistan you can at least say this was against terrorism or dictators. Even if it's bullahit some things are true.

Vietnam was countries pushing some stupid agenda. The US had no business there, also extended the war to help Nixon get elected (this isn't a conspiracy this is a historical fact) made way for the genocide in Cambodia, not to mention killing Vietnamese people to stop "Chinese Communism" when the Vietnamese were fighting the Chinese on their own soil. The veterans weren't respected when they came back and its known there were tons of atrocities done by the US by a bunch of unfit dimbasses.
There's no good way to portray that war.

 

[987654321]

We had rising storm Vietnam, but it’s probably dead now.

Mostly Vietnamese kids playing as the American team and Americans playing as the Vietnamese. Both were cosplaying as each other and it ended up getting hilariously out of pocket.

 

[PS5 Pro]

This is how I'd make it...

A chopper drops us off in the middle of a field kinda like Tropic Thunder
Next thing you know, Charlie to the left of me Charlie to the right
I use a throwing knife that takes out two gouks, I then spark a cigar as Charlie drops down from the treetops
I'm getting 360 degree ambushed by Charlie's and with no other options I take out a grenade and off myself while taking 20 more Charlie's with me
Think Charlie and the chocolate factory but red instead of brown...

Spoiler

I just wanted to say Charlie, my bad carry on with the thread

 

[Roid Jones]

Just look at the history and fall out from the Vietnam war to know why