Why they don't make male R&B collabs like this anymore

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We got Trap & B now...or us it R & Trap??

I see what the OP saying though....where is that "organic" soul music for the masses. Actually there are new artist doing more traditional soul/neosoul/R&B, but most don't get the same kind of push if they don't have a trap beat behind them..


You forgot to add "unless they're white" at the end. There are white people who are doing r&b and are getting play on both r&b and pop stations. Someone really needs to get rid of Clear Chanel's monoply on radio bc it is one of the biggest things that are ruining the industry.

Literally every generation says this....
That's not completely true. Some generations like the music of the others. Some didn't.

The difference is the OLDER people were saying that the younger people's music is garbage, but now you have a majority of the people who are in the generation calling the music of their own generation garbage along with the older people. It is not the same at all. That is how you know things are really bad along with very low sales.
 

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You forgot to add "unless they're white" at the end. There are white people who are doing r&b and are getting play on both r&b and pop stations. Someone really needs to get rid of Clear Chanel's monoply on radio bc it is one of the biggest things that are ruining the industry.


That's not completely true. Some generations like the music of the others. Some didn't.

The difference is the OLDER people were saying that the younger people's music is garbage, but now you have a majority of the people who are in the generation calling the music of their own generation garbage along with the older people. It is not the same at all. That is how you know things are really bad along with very low sales.
  1. Sales are low because no one, especially black people, don't by music. Adele literally went diamond with her album if I remember correctly. Drake is the biggest rapper by a large margin and his sales don't touch Adele's.
  2. Where tf have you heard people of this generation say that the music sucks? If someone says that they hate a whole generations music, that is an indication close-mindedness.
  3. Young as well as old talk shyt about music in EVERY generation:skip:. That's an awful fukking point, fam.
  4. A majority:skip::skip::skip:???! Bruh, how old are you? I graduated high school in May and I think I'm more qualified than you are in terms of knowing what my generation likes.
 

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  1. Sales are low because no one, especially black people, don't by music. Adele literally went diamond with her album if I remember correctly. Drake is the biggest rapper by a large margin and his sales don't touch Adele's.
  2. Where tf have you heard people of this generation say that the music sucks? If someone says that they hate a whole generations music, that is an indication close-mindedness.
  3. Young as well as old talk shyt about music in EVERY generation:skip:. That's an awful fukking point, fam.
  4. A majority:skip::skip::skip:???! Bruh, how old are you? I graduated high school in May and I think I'm more qualified than you are in terms of knowing what my generation likes.

I am young as well. Not even old enough to drink yet, but older than you. You are clearly from Generation Z, hopefully you weren't born in the 90s, but if you were, this is why I say the mid 90s should be included with Millennials instead of trying to put us with trash ass generation Z. Anyway, there are lots of young people who do not like the trash on the radio and listen to older music or search underground. That never used to happen. When young people don't like their own music (meaning the music people thier age range makes or people in their generation), that's how you know it's bad.

You can't say people don't buy music then mention people who went diamond and platinum right after you claimed people don't buy music. That is proof that people do buy music. It just depends on exposure, marketing, popularity, and race.
 

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I am young as well. Not even old enough to drink yet, but older than you. You are clearly from Generation Z, hopefully you weren't born in the 90s, but if you were, this is why I say the mid 90s should be included with Millennials instead of trying to put us with trash ass generation Z. Anyway, there are lots of young people who do not like the trash on the radio and listen to older music or search underground. That never used to happen. When young people don't like their own music (meaning the music people thier age range makes or people in their generation), that's how you know it's bad.

You can't say people don't buy music then mention people who went diamond and platinum right after you claimed people don't buy music. That is proof that people do buy music. It just depends on exposure, marketing, popularity, and race.
But my generation does like the music:skip:. If generation Z is 1998-now, then wouldn't that mean that I'm more qualified than you are to talk about what my generation likes:sas2:?

How can you call music garbage when I guarantee that you only listen to 2 or 3 genres? You're gonna tell me, a guy who listens to music all day, every day, what's bad or not:comeon:?

People don't buy music when it's only 3-4 artists selling like Drake. It's only 3 who do Adele numbers including her. Meanwhile, Vanilla Ice went platinum in the 90's. MC Hammer went platinum too:russ:.

Edit: he went diamond, 2x platinum and 3x platinum:dead:. He wasn't even the biggest rap artist of the time and he still outsold every present rapper.

2nd edit: Nvm Adele is the ONLY artist selling like that. Taylor Swift is the biggest pop star and her last album sold 7 million worldwide. Adele's last album did 20 million.
 
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But my generation does like the music:skip:. If generation Z is 1998-now, then wouldn't that mean that I'm more qualified than you are to talk about what my generation likes:sas2:?

How can you call music garbage when I guarantee that you only listen to 2 or 3 genres? You're gonna tell me, a guy who listens to music all day, every day, what's bad or not:comeon:?

People don't buy music when it's only 3-4 artists selling like Drake. It's only 3 who do Adele numbers including her. Meanwhile, Vanilla Ice went platinum in the 90's. MC Hammer went platinum too:russ:.

Edit: he went diamond, 2x platinum and 3x platinum:dead:. He wasn't even the biggest rap artist of the time and he still outsold every present rapper.

2nd edit: Nvm Adele is the ONLY artist selling like that. Taylor Swift is the biggest pop star and her last album sold 7 million worldwide. Adele's last album did 20 million.

You must've forgotten that this thread is about r&b/hiphop.Mainstream crowd/buyers includes teens to 35 year olds, which rn includes both generation y (19-35) and z (18 and younger), but mostly y. A lot of us don't like the music bc we are old enough to remember when it was good. Some of us along with y'all little idiot kids do like it, but not much. If you really liked it, you would buy it instead of streaming it. Whole albums instead of songs. Your generation is full of idiot followers. If someone can go diamond in 2016, that means there are at least 10 million people willing to buy music, but they are picking and choosing who they buy it from based off of music quality, race and marketing. People don't want to pay for garbage.
 

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You must've forgotten that this thread is about r&b/hiphop.Mainstream crowd/buyers includes teens to 35 year olds, which rn includes both generation y (19-35) and z (18 and younger), but mostly y. A lot of us don't like the music bc we are old enough to remember when it was good. Some of us along with y'all little idiot kids do like it, but not much. If you really liked it, you would buy it instead of streaming it. Whole albums instead of songs. Your generation is full of idiot followers. If someone can go diamond in 2016, that means there are at least 10 million people willing to buy music, but they are picking and choosing who they buy it from based off of music quality, race and marketing. People don't want to pay for garbage.
I really like Skittles, but if I could get them for free I would:russ:

Just like most people with common sense.

You don't turn down free shyt if it's good:sas2:

Streaming counts towards album sales you dumbass:dead:

People my age have better things to spend money on than albums.
 

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I really like Skittles, but if I could get them for free I would:russ:

Just like most people with common sense.

You don't turn down free shyt if it's good:sas2:

Streaming counts towards album sales you dumbass:dead:

People my age have better things to spend money on than albums.
Music has never and never will be "special" to people your age that's why you couldn't care less about supporting artists you like with your money. Particular artists has never been "special" to you either. Todays music doesn't make you FEEL anything. Its microwaveable. Your generation doesn't have the same connection to music as people did back in the day. Its too accessible now. You listen to it for 1 week then forget about it. Matter fact you probably have no idea what I mean when I say "special".
 

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I really like Skittles, but if I could get them for free I would:russ:

Just like most people with common sense.

You don't turn down free shyt if it's good:sas2:

Streaming counts towards album sales you dumbass:dead:

People my age have better things to spend money on than albums.

Little boy, streaming did not always count as album sales. That is something new. & it does not = money, streaming only helps on the charts. Streaming instead of buying is less money for the artists. That is another thing that is helping to ruin the industry. Again, young people are buying albums but only buying albums from certain people and streaming from others. Proof is in the numbers. I am 2 years older than you. Idk why you are speaking as if I am 30. You come off as really immature.

Bottom line, start paying for the R&B artists that keep it Neo-soul. Fans ain't paying for the shyt, so its not coming out.

It's the fans fault.

It is also radio and tv's fault. How is anyone supposed to know about it if it doesn't get promoted?
 

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Music has never and never will be "special" to people your age that's why you couldn't care less about supporting artists you like with your money. Particular artists has never been "special" to you either. Todays music doesn't make you FEEL anything. Its microwaveable. Your generation doesn't have the same connection to music as people did back in the day. Its too accessible now. You listen to it for 1 week then forget about it. Matter fact you probably have no idea what I mean when I say "special".
It does lol. DRAM's music makes me feel happy, Drake's makes me feel sad/hyped/ambitious, Young Thug's music makes me want to speak in tongues for no reason, 21 savage's music makes me want to throw money in someone's face, Lil Yachy's music makes me feel like doing crazy shyt, Uzi Vert's makes me want to walk around in pajamas and say "she wanna smoke my dope, YEAH!":russ:

I think music became too diverse for you guys too quickly. @Giselle thinks that because 5 of her friends hate music that it means that the whole generation does also.

You guys are funny:dead:
 
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