why was hue Jackson fired again?

[Dr. Narcisse]

I dunno how Dalton & Palmer situations are comparable since Arians never coached Dalton.

I never discredited Jackson's offensive mind nor his developmental talents, but Arians is doing more with Palmer than Hue ever did. That's just a fact. Hue is also doing a great job with Dalton, that's also a fact.

However, let's all be real here, X's & O's savants who don't know how to handle & manage the players & media are best left at coordinator. No one will ever heap praise on Herm Edwards' football acumen, but he was a decent manager of men & carved out a decent little 7 year HC career because he could shmooze the media & to his credit, had a knack for rallying his guys. Same is usually said about Joe Torre, not the best at strategy, but no one was gonna "manage" those Yankee clubhouses like he did, and for it, chiseled out a dynasty from a dead franchise.

Yes, Jackson deserves another chance... but he's gonna have to learn to be way more media savvy or it'll just be rinse & repeat.

I highlighted Andy Dalton as a way of promoting Jackson. He's turning a guy people dont take serious into an MVP candidate. Thats impressive.

Breh you cant have an honest assessment of what Hue could or couldnt do with Palmer in 10 games. Especially when he was TRADED there. No off season, no time to develop a rapport, etc etc.

This isnt to say Hue would have had him as good as he is now. But lets remember what Palmer looked like with Arians when he first got there. Remember he has better weapons as well.

2011 (10 games)
Palmer 13 tds 16 ints
Passer Rating 80.6
QBR 57.87

2013
Palmer 24 tds 22 ints
Passer rating 83.9
QBR 51.1


Why wasnt Palmer automatically great with the Cardinals? It takes time getting use to the system

 

[pete clemenza]

I was a huge Huge Jackson supporter and wished he remained as coach but when that Carson Palmer trade went down and at least 85% of the whole Coli laughed us out of the room. It was the year in which Al Davis died and and then Jason Campbell went down for the year.. we were actually still in playoff contention. The Raiders have never had a GM and Marc Davis wasn't a football guy at the time so Hue too the reins, gambled on Carson, and it almost worked until we lost at home to the Chargers on the final game of the year. A win and we would've made the postseason.

Now in 2015 Carson and Hue are still playing and coaching solid games but back then it was a sin to say anything positive about Hue Jackson and Carson Palmer on The Coli

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

So Hue has destroyed Pete and Rex in back to back weeks


Yet still no talk of possible HC jobs.

 

[SoulController]

brilliant offensive mind, and the way they adjust to lost personnel is great. no Andrew Whitworth (most slept on tackle in football) today and didnt miss a beat

safe to say he'll have some offers, lord knows DET would take him over Jim 'holdin the fort down' Caldwell or Fox's bum ass

 

[Trojan 24]

So Hue has destroyed Pete and Rex in back to back weeks


Yet still no talk of possible HC jobs.

I've already said I'd be pumped for him to come to USC

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

I've already said I'd be pumped for him to come to USC

He use to coach there as well

Thing is do you really want another offensive HC

 

[Trojan 24]

He use to coach there as well

Thing is do you really want another offensive HC

I just wanna see us score, and as long as we can bring in a competent DC we should be fine on that side.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

offense moving too slow.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

He use to coach there as well

Thing is do you really want another offensive HC

There should be a Defensive minded coach if it's a former USC alum.

Where USC has glaringly lacked is on defense....Those Carrol/Ken Norton led defenses flat out terrified teams.... now they're a fukking joke.