Why was Mike Bibby drafted so high?

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Stevie Franchise was far more exciting and compelling then Bibby ever was.

Steve Francis wasn't in that draft.

Draft position is relative to the draft, not relative to every player in history.

Stay in your lane and argue with the children. Don't come at the grownups, you aren't on this level.
 

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Steve Francis wasn't in that draft.

Draft position is relative to the draft, not relative to every player in history.

Stay in your lane and argue with the children. Don't come at the grownups, you aren't on this level.
Francis was an example of a superior point guard drafted in the same position. Francis outperformed Bibby in damn near all categories, THAT WAS MY POINT.


And by the way, try to patronize me fakkit. I asked a simple fukking question on an open board. And your holier then thou ass come in here acting all superior because you sat behind your tv and watched more games then anyone else. Yet you call yourself a grown man. Most of these "grown men" have pot bellies and grey hairs arguing about sports like they're in the lunch table in middle school and not getting anywhere in life.

For all those facts and knowledge you have the NBA, how much money do you make out of it? Next thing I'll here is a deflection or you trying out for Hofstra or Georgetown in 1992 and met *insert random NBA player but I couldn't make the team* like the rest of them do. Just another armchair negro bragging about games and stats and don't have anything to show for it. :camby:
 
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Francis was an example of a superior point guard drafted in the same position. Francis outperformed Bibby in damn near all categories, THAT WAS MY POINT.

It is a stupid point, often made by people who fundamentally misunderstand how the draft works.

You can only draft the talent available in any given pool. Jordan went 3rd in 84, but Jordan wasn't in this draft either.

And thank you for asking, I have covered college basketball and the NBA, I have scouted, and worked for NBA teams and coaches. And I walked on to a top 25 D1 team, where I never had a shot at playing, but would certainly cook you, if you ever happened to show up at the wrong court and caught this Yakubian Yoga Flame.

You asked a stupid question, and you got clowned for it. Don't get in your feelings about it. You have your answer, just move on. :manny:
 

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It is a stupid point, often made by people who fundamentally misunderstand how the draft works.

You can only draft the talent available in any given pool. Jordan went 3rd in 84, but Jordan wasn't in this draft either.

And thank you for asking, I have covered college basketball and the NBA, I have scouted, and worked for NBA teams and coaches. And I walked on to a top 25 D1 team, where I never had a shot at playing, but would certainly cook you, if you ever happened to show up at the wrong court and catch this Yacoubian Yoga Flame.

You asked a stupid question, and you got clowned for it. Don't get in your feelings about it. You have your answer, just move on. :manny:
Didn't read point made :umad:
 

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On topic, the Grizzlies needed a PG and he was the best in the draft. Their PG was Antonio Daniels who had been traded to the Spurs during draft night.

This is the answer.

The Grizzlies had scoring down low with Sharif and Big Country...but they needed a PG bad who could shoot and distribute.
They would've been a fool to pass on Bibby that year.
 

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This is the answer.

The Grizzlies had scoring down low with Sharif and Big Country...but they needed a PG bad who could shoot and distribute.
They would've been a fool to pass on Bibby that year.


On top of that, Bibby went on to take the Kings team with J-Will, which everyone loved, and turn them into an actual contender. He made that team better, because he was the better guard.
 

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On top of that, Bibby went on to take the Kings team with J-Will, which everyone loved, and turn them into an actual contender. He made that team better, because he was the better guard.

Yeah.

...and to the OP's point, J-Will was the...let's say "flashier" guard.
The Grizzlies did that deal with Sactown trying to sell tickets; everybody by that point could tell Bibby was a better player/investment.
 

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On top of that, Bibby went on to take the Kings team with J-Will, which everyone loved, and turn them into an actual contender. He made that team better, because he was the better guard.

I wouldn't say better guard, he was a better fit since he brought what they were lacking. He didn't have near the court vision and passing ability of WC, but since they could and did run the offense through Webber, Vlade, Doug, he had that extra shooting that made things easier. Predrag was their only consistent shooter before Bibby.
 

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Dude had Jason Kidd court vision with a nasty jump shot on paper but it never translated to success in the league relative to what I thought he would be. With that said he was a key player in Sacramento's success in the early 2000s.
 
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I wouldn't say better guard, he was a better fit since he brought what they were lacking. He didn't have near the court vision and passing ability of WC, but since they could and did run the offense through Webber, Vlade, Doug, he had that extra shooting that made things easier. Predrag was their only consistent shooter before Bibby.


I love J-Will, I prefer him. I'd rather watch him 100 times out of 100.

But Bibby was better. Boring. And better. There's not really any legitimate argument otherwise.
 

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Bibby would be better in this era too with the emphasis on the 3 ball that. That 15 and 5 would probably be like 20 and 8 during this era.
 

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Steve Francis wasn't in that draft.

Draft position is relative to the draft, not relative to every player in history.

Stay in your lane and argue with the children. Don't come at the grownups, you aren't on this level.

I am with you breh. The OP asked why was Bibby drafted so high? The answer is because it was a shytty draft, combined with the fact that there were question marks about the players who turned out to be really good. A lot of questions about Dirk and while Pierce was highly touted coming out of HS and was a good college player, his team underachieved and he didnt look like a top 3 pick playing under Roy Williams. Pierce was the predecessor to Harrison Barnes in that regard. In recent years drafts, Bibby wouldnt be so high so you cant compare. He would possibly be a lottery pick but likely outside of the lottery. He'd fall somewhere around the range of where Jrue or Bledsoe were drafted (17-18) and he probably wasnt as good as either of them.

it was a totally different time back then. if that draft were today, no way would Rashard Lewis not be a top 10 pick. you gotta realize, players coming out of HS were not proven commodities yet. KG had just came out a few years before and he wasnt even that good yet. likewise with T-Mac and Kobe. they were good players but no one knew even at the time Bibby was drafted that those guys would be HOFers and that Rashard would be a two-time All Star. :yeshrug:
 
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