Why Was TLOU2 Hated?

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

just finally went through TLOU1 & 2 for the first time. sorry if this been debated 1000 times but the search engine on this site is terrible

I caught some of the online commentary at the time and it seemed like part 2 was just despised. after playing both I thought 2 was pretty much better in every way. combat is very fun and when you're in the flow of things you feel like the predator. graphics were incredible, I played it on PS5 and it didn't feel like a last gen game at all

were the complaints all about the story? why did people care so much about joel getting killed? there was really nothing left for him to do and at the end of the day he was just a regular guy

I did think some of the abby story felt superfluous, I get they wanted to show the humanity of your enemy but some of her shyt dragged for me. I thought the writing and dialogue was strong tho. so much goes unsaid. ellie never even finds out joel killed abby's father. people in real life don't shout out their motivations before doing something either. plus the open-endedness of the ending. the game shows you things rather than tells you outright and that kind of writing is rare in games

so was this game just hated for goofy cac outrage reasons or were there valid criticisms about it?

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

lol

 

[Pure Water]

Misguided tranny rumors. The person people thought was a tranny was a buff girl and the people they thought was a boy was actually the tranny in training.

 

[Standing on business]

It was hated?

 

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

Misguided tranny rumors. The person people thought was a tranny was a buff girl and the people they thought was a boy was actually the tranny in training.

tranny in training honestly that shyt had me rolling my eyes a bit

another thing I'm getting tired of is the end of the games coming without warning. I had so much ammo and shyt saved for a final epic encounter that I thought was coming and then the game just ends spent all them hours scavaging this whole arsenal just to waste it smh

 

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

It was hated?

the metacritic user score is ridiculous

The Last of Us Part II

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

the metacritic user score is ridiculous

The Last of Us Part II

This should tell you all you need to know…

“Mixed or average reviews based on 157081 Ratings”

 

[The Minister Of Culture]

I think the Joel death upset people more than anything especially since it’s a possibility they’ll make a third one. But this isn’t uncommon in video game series people get attached to certain characters and there will be blowback if you remove/replace them haphazardly or without good execution.

the same thing happened with Street Fighter 3 back in the day people were upset that besides Ryu and Ken none of the other world warriors from SF2 didn’t make the roster in the 1st iteration of that series. And they tried to make Alex the new poster boy for the franchise.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

just finally went through TLOU1 & 2 for the first time. sorry if this been debated 1000 times but the search engine on this site is terrible

I caught some of the online commentary at the time and it seemed like part 2 was just despised. after playing both I thought 2 was pretty much better in every way. combat is very fun and when you're in the flow of things you feel like the predator. graphics were incredible, I played it on PS5 and it didn't feel like a last gen game at all

were the complaints all about the story? why did people care so much about joel getting killed? there was really nothing left for him to do and at the end of the day he was just a regular guy

I did think some of the abby story felt superfluous, I get they wanted to show the humanity of your enemy but some of her shyt dragged for me. I thought the writing and dialogue was strong tho. so much goes unsaid. ellie never even finds out joel killed abby's father. people in real life don't shout out their motivations before doing something either. plus the open-endedness of the ending. the game shows you things rather than tells you outright and that kind of writing is rare in games

so was this game just hated for goofy cac outrage reasons or were there valid criticisms about it?

TLOU2 pros
Gameplay is Naughty Dog's best of the uncharted/tlou franchises.
Top tier graphics.
Great writing.
As far as a game with polish, I don't know if there is one that goes beyond this to this point.

TLOU2 cons
Game drags at multiple points of the game.
A lot of people end up hating the characters.
As a game and a premise, the second game wasn't needed. TLOU1 wrapped a nice bow on the entire experience.
Naughty Dog's continued tonedeafness toward depictions of minorities, especially black people.

As a game, TLOU2 > TLOU1. As an experience, TLOU1> TLOU2.

 

[tinnyskillz]

Some people read the leaks before the game was released, and already had their mind made up they were going to hate the game based off of what they had read. The funny thing is, some of the leaks where wrong and didn`t tell the whole story of the game.

This clown was one of the main ones. Watch the first vid (start @ 8:30), then some of the 2nd vid. All he did was jump on the hate bandwagon. And sometimes people just want to complain or be mad about something. That is his thing though so:



6\10 ...He gave Halo Infinite a higher score recently

He was also mad ND didn`t send him a review copy lol. His livestreams of him playing the game was literally him and his two other friends trying their hardest to hate on everything the game had to offer.

Spoiler

I remember there was one part where he was like (paraphrasing) "I see what you`re doing ND, trying to make us like Abby, it`s not going to work", and the part you fight Ellie he purposely got Abby killed and said it was the end.

Weird behavior imo. But yeah like i said, i feel like some of those who hate it (present tense because they still hate on it to this day) had their minds made up already before they played or finished the game. It became the popular thing to do.


Also TLOU2 hate videos were doing some #`s on YouTube at the time. And the Joel death (the way he died i guess) literally...Breh, LITERALLY killed the rest of the game for some people. Couldn`t be me. I like to see how things play out before i`m down on a game only two hours in.

 

[Mowgli]

just finally went through TLOU1 & 2 for the first time. sorry if this been debated 1000 times but the search engine on this site is terrible

I caught some of the online commentary at the time and it seemed like part 2 was just despised. after playing both I thought 2 was pretty much better in every way. combat is very fun and when you're in the flow of things you feel like the predator. graphics were incredible, I played it on PS5 and it didn't feel like a last gen game at all

were the complaints all about the story? why did people care so much about joel getting killed? there was really nothing left for him to do and at the end of the day he was just a regular guy

I did think some of the abby story felt superfluous, I get they wanted to show the humanity of your enemy but some of her shyt dragged for me. I thought the writing and dialogue was strong tho. so much goes unsaid. ellie never even finds out joel killed abby's father. people in real life don't shout out their motivations before doing something either. plus the open-endedness of the ending. the game shows you things rather than tells you outright and that kind of writing is rare in games

so was this game just hated for goofy cac outrage reasons or were there valid criticisms about it?

People didn't like a 2nd female lead with A cups and muscles.

People didn't like what happened to Joel.

 

[AAKing23]

Excellent from a gameplay perspective, innovative accessibility settings and beautiful character/sound/environment design


But terrible pacing of the story, inconsistent character traits/writing and identity politics make the game leave a bad taste in my mouth


I've played through the game 5 times to see if that bad taste went away but it doesn't

 

[BlackXCL]

Because gamers have shyt taste, are immature, and think the medium has peaked with shyt like Ghosts of Tsushima.

Cant appreciate artists trying to elevate the medium of gaming.

The people who hate it are impressed by basic, generic, do nothing for the medium, piss poor writing games like Ghosts of Tsushima. Simply because its safe.

If you dont like TLOU 2, you simply have low standards.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Because gamers have shyt taste, are immature, and think the medium has peaked with shyt like Ghosts of Tsushima.

Cant appreciate artists trying to elevate the medium of gaming.

The people who hate it are impressed by basic, generic, do nothing for the medium, piss poor writing games like Ghosts of Tsushima. Simply because its safe.

If you dont like TLOU 2, you simply have low standards.

Wait brother….why we dragging Tsushima in this when Halo exist?

 

[BlackXCL]

Wait brother….why we dragging Tsushima in this when Halo exist?

cuz them weirdos who stan for that game all seem to have hating TLOU 2 in common