I could absolutely imagine Whites being petty and not supporting Black institutions with top athletics programs. You saw how they are doing Larry Johnson?
Why wont all the black players go to the black schools in college?
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I could absolutely imagine Whites being petty and not supporting Black institutions with top athletics programs. You saw how they are doing Larry Johnson?
Because college brand names aren't built on players. They only last 4 years at a time. But raucous fanbases, great coaches, and a large alumni foundation are more long-term.
The mistake you guys are making is thinking that 5 star recruits going to HBCUs should be the first step. That's unrealistic and solves little. Do a better job graduating students and building a stronger relationship with alumni first. Then rebuild your facilities as your endowment grows. THEN, and only then will the top athletes starting coming in.
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Ah so Harvard wouldn't be a powerhouse because.... they lack the players.
So despite all the money, players actually do matter?
Notre Dame has old money but if Notre Dame didn't have black players they would be garbage. Simple as that. Players make good teams. Money can only attract players but it can't do anything on the field.
Guarantee?
No one that's fights for progress or change does it with a guarantee
That's the sacrifice
Jesus Shuttlesworth
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Maybe back in the day, but today when it's uncool to show your racism, they'd have to let the blacks compete. And if they were going against all white teams, they'd crush them no matter the facilities and financial support.
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Damn breh. It's so disheartening that so many people have no concept of that.
what you're suggesting would take decades
if 4-5 5 star recruits went to howard next year then they could make enough money in one season to start rebuilding the facilities
so yeah, 5 star recruits would be a great 1st step
not sure if this is you or your wife posting, but
my quote.
I've shared my vision on here a lot already. Most people ignore it because it does sound like a pipe dream but I believe it can be done. Not sure if its a 10yr plan though
1. Recruit top athletes to HBCU's. Use this crap like Donald Sterling situation to help them see the vision. Have them establish relationships/networking with peers. Guys like Bdizzle & BlackKing. Once they enter NFL/NBA etc. set aside an allocated amount of funds into a pool with other black athletes. This decreases risk of investment. Use that money to start businesses in inner-city communities. i.e Banks, Grocery stories, apartments, Construction companies etc. Hire guys like Bdizzle & BlackKing to be the CEO of their business while they remain sole owner. The HBCU's responsibility, teach the incoming students about their REAL history, promote ownership, community, and healthy competitive balance between communities & train them for jobs that are open in their communities. The students responsibility is to become an OUTREACH force that sets up training for vo-tech centers, and skills for out of work blacks in these areas..for the low to mid-level entry positions or how to migrate else where and start over where their skills are needed.
2. Expansion. This will start very small...like one strip mall, then one block, then one side of the city, then the entire city, then Move on to the NEXT City. Once, the athletes start making money long after their career is over. This will spread on to the Top tier athletes who don't go to HBCU's. After the top tier Athletes are recruited into the pool. The entertainers & musicians are then recruited...and then top black politicians and it becomes mainstream.
3. Why Athletes are important. The McNair Model is the example I used because as a young kid from very humble beginnings & him being around my way. Seeing that guy come from nothing to ESPN, Sports Illustrated, ABC, Heisman canidate, and highest Black QB ever drafted showed me how much power they have & what's been taken from us. All of that 'attention' could be used to help black people who work at the HBCU's and increases prestige of the schools because people are being put to work once they graduate. That type of word spreads like wild fire. We could set up all types of advertisements, TV shows, networks, radio station all built around this. The only way Blacks should allow their child to go to PWC's is if they are paid & or brought up out of poverty. Its too much money being made off of them for black kids not to be benefiting from this.
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You sell the kid on becoming an Economic Mogul in his community. He willoff the community he helped set up far longer than his playing career i.e. Magic Johnson (sometimes on a smaller level). His name will be over the head of banks, hospitals, hotels etc. and not just be a 'ball player'. We have to sell these kids the opportunity of becoming great Leaders of America...not just ball players. This is a mature approach & a cultural change that can happen if we executed it right.
Ah so Harvard wouldn't be a powerhouse because.... they lack the players.
So despite all the money, players actually do matter?
Notre Dame has old money but if Notre Dame didn't have black players they would be garbage. Simple as that. Players make good teams. Money can only attract players but it can't do anything on the field.
Walk around a college campus sometime. Almost all of the facilities are named after and dedicated to donors. Because that's what keeps the college excelling.
The issue that so many people are missing here is the wealth alumni/ boosters that influence these kids parents and stuff with money, jobs, free travel
Black people do not have that network of wealth to be able to coerce kids into signing with the schools
Those fukking facilities or overrated. You don't need all that shyt to get bigger, faster or stronger.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
And what keeps the sports teams excelling?
being a powerhouse isnt built in 1 year. it take sustained excellence and these dudes keep talking about what if 4 or 5 top ranked players go there. like they're not gonna be seen as people who just went there and moved on to the nba. it would take coaches to be able to sell to next group of kids what they building and how they gonna do that if every year players there for 1 year
okay these 4-5 star dudes go to howard. they ride the 1 and done wave, then what happen. some of you dudes failing to realize that. you have to ask yourself will those kids do enough in 1 yearto be persuading enough to get other top ranked kids to go to Howard. i say no they wont.
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that applies both ways
black players can go to an hbcu and know that their sacrifices will generate the money that makes it possible for future athletes to come to hbcu's and have decent facilities
You can't just walk into a kid's home (with his parents by his side) and convince them to come to our school because the white man is the devil. It's 2014. They have the internet. Chances are they've fukked a white chick or two. That's your primary recruiting pitch? Maybe if you get to those kids when they're younger and keep in touch (like Lane Kiffin) but that's too much work.