Why won't muslims give jews their land back?

[88m3]

cognitive dissonance in full effect in this thread

it doesn't help more than a few of you have the iq of good round of golf.


Can't seem to figure out why Russia keeps being brought up when we're talking about Jewish communities that have existed for centuries in Muslim countries

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

1973 says otherwise... you have a thin grasp of history friend.


Also to OP's stupidity, a lot of those Jews (almost all of them) left because they wanted to be in Israel

This has nothing to do with Islam because it happened to Arab countries

Finally, the people of Arab countries didn't even have autonomy over their own countries at the time, so how could they be possibly held accountable for what happened in their name? It's like punishing the Iraqi people for the Iran Iraq war

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1973???? Son Israel keeps MURKING these fools.

Israel has been whooping that ass for close to SEVENTY YEARS

Just give it a rest. How many more L's is the arab world going to keep asking for?

Seek the two state solution OR (if they're really about that life) "get rid" of Israel...and we all know how the latter tends to work out.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

are you talking about? How do Israelis stomp everyone in claiming if there is no proof of that ever happened? So if white people claim land in Africa, it's pretty much their cause they claimed it?

Yep.

Thats how shyt works.

You either repel invasions or you roll over and take it.

Referring to some ancient book or vague origin story ain't gonna save you cause at the end of the day, you only have what you can keep and control.

 

[Blackking]

The muslims probably wont "give the Jews their land back" for the same reason most people in this thread would not give the Native Americans their land back. Nonetheless they did have the land before the muslims.

It was shared land.... due to the Zionist movement it was VERY dangerous to allow jews to stay around your land, families, or people (at least in the mid east)...

keep in mind these people (back then and now) were manipulating the media and money. Also, currently the Jews do grimy stuff like secreat missions, running up in hotels murking people in other peoples nations, running financial institutions and controlling political lobbies,,, and all sorts of shyt. So it might have been wrong of the arabs, but it was a great decision on their part. Especially following WW2 when the UN GAVE then a piece of land not giving a fukk about the peace in that area.

Anyway, during the time frame the op is talking about... the Jew wanted to leave. They even state now that they weren't forced out. We're just trying to paint them as the constant victim.

 

[Scientific Playa]

only posting part of the article .... read and digest


THE JEWS OF IRAQ
By Naeim Giladi

The Iraqi Jews by Naeim Giladi

naeim giladi

write this article for the same reason I wrote my book: to tell the American people, and especially American Jews, that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews; and that, to buy time to confiscate ever more Arab lands, Jews on numerous occasions rejected genuine peace initiatives from their Arab neighbors. I write about what the first prime minister of Israel called "cruel Zionism." I write about it because I was part of it.


My Story

Of course I thought I knew it all back then. I was young, idealistic, and more than willing to put my life at risk for my convictions. It was 1947 and I wasn't quite 18 when the Iraqi authorities caught me for smuggling young Iraqi Jews like myself out of Iraq, into Iran, and then on to the Promised Land of the soon-to-be established Israel.

I was an Iraqi Jew in the Zionist underground. My Iraqi jailers did everything they could to extract the names of my co-conspirators. Fifty years later, pain still throbs in my right toe-a reminder of the day my captors used pliers to remove my toenails. On another occasion, they hauled me to the flat roof of the prison, stripped me bare on a frigid January day, then threw a bucket of cold water over me. I was left there, chained to the railing, for hours. But I never once considered giving them the information they wanted. I was a true believer.

My preoccupation during what I refer to as my "two years in hell" was with survival and escape. I had no interest then in the broad sweep of Jewish history in Iraq even though my family had been part of it right from the beginning. We were originally Haroons, a large and important family of the "Babylonian Diaspora." My ancestors had settled in Iraq more than 2,600 years ago-600 years before Christianity, and 1,200 years before Islam. I am descended from Jews who built the tomb of Yehezkel, a Jewish prophet of pre-biblical times. My town, where I was born in 1929, is Hillah, not far from the ancient site of Babylon.

The original Jews found Babylon, with its nourishing Tigris and Euphrates rivers, to be truly a land of milk, honey, abundance-and opportunity. Although Jews, like other minorities in what became Iraq, experienced periods of oppression and discrimination depending on the rulers of the period, their general trajectory over two and one-half millennia was upward. Under the late Ottoman rule, for example, Jewish social and religious institutions, schools, and medical facilities flourished without outside interference, and Jews were prominent in government and business.

The Iraqi Jews by Naeim Giladi

 

[Everythingg]

It was shared land.... due to the Zionist movement it was VERY dangerous to allow jews to stay around your land, families, or people (at least in the mid east)...

keep in mind these people (back then and now) were manipulating the media and money. Also, currently the Jews do grimy stuff like secreat missions, running up in hotels murking people in other peoples nations, running financial institutions and controlling political lobbies,,, and all sorts of shyt. So it might have been wrong of the arabs, but it was a great decision on their part. Especially following WW2 when the UN GAVE then a piece of land not giving a fukk about the peace in that area.

Anyway, during the time frame the op is talking about... the Jew wanted to leave. They even state now that they weren't forced out. We're just trying to paint them as the constant victim.

Well I guess heres a difference in beliefs. I do not believe that the people doing these things really honor their heritage as Jews. I dont believe these people (that are in charge) are doing these things simply to get the Jews back to their land. Simply put, I believe they have nefarious purposes for doing this and soon enough people will start blaming Jews again while ignoring the true benefactors. Heck, its already started. I really think that Arabs (as muslims) should understand why the Jews believe they belong there.

And even though the post above mine seems to say different, I dont know much about the subject of your last few sentences. I was simply speaking from the perspective that they were there before the Palestinians.

 

[Broke Wave]

1973???? Son Israel keeps MURKING these fools.

Israel has been whooping that ass for close to SEVENTY YEARS

Just give it a rest. How many more L's is the arab world going to keep asking for?

Seek the two state solution OR (if they're really about that life) "get rid" of Israel...and we all know how the latter tends to work out.

Lol ok give it a rest? Do you actually know about what happened in 1973 or are you gonna keep regurgitating nonsense? Did they "whoop that ass" when they fought Hezbollah? I hate Hezbollah btw, but facts are facts.

1973 Israel was within days of losing the war and being thrown into the sea until America stepped in. That's real life facts.

 

[MVike28]

okay OP

 

[Blackking]

Well I guess heres a difference in beliefs. I do not believe that the people doing these things really honor their heritage as Jews. I dont believe these people (that are in charge) are doing these things simply to get the Jews back to their land. Simply put, I believe they have nefarious purposes for doing this and soon enough people will start blaming Jews again while ignoring the true benefactors. Heck, its already started. I really think that Arabs (as muslims) should understand why the Jews believe they belong there.

And even though the post above mine seems to say different, I dont know much about the subject of your last few sentences. I was simply speaking from the perspective that they were there before the Palestinians.

soon you'll understand that we're both right.... they are doing it for the Jews, but not for that reason of getting them back to the land... it's about a presence in the mideast and oil and resource rich areas...and control of 'extreme' nations.

arab lived with jews peacefully for a long time in the area...... They dislike Zionist though-- as we all should.

peace

 

[dontspeakmuch]

IMO the Ancient "Jews" are long extinct and gone, due to conversion(forced) to either Christianity or Islam. These Jews in Israel are nothing more than European converts.

Again just my opinion, but a good one.

Muslims don't force conversion. Ones intention matters when taking the shahada.

 

[dontspeakmuch]

For the people who say the current Jews are Europeans do that discount the fact that they was forced out they homes? In that case then the Turks belong in central Asia and not Anatolia (where Turkey is) and should give that land back to the Greeks who had a 2000 year old empire there...it's crazy the lame Ass excuses u people make for the Muslims...I guess y'all scares of having a suicide bomber roll up through your hood

I don't see the similarity between those two situations

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Lol ok give it a rest? Do you actually know about what happened in 1973 or are you gonna keep regurgitating nonsense? Did they "whoop that ass" when they fought Hezbollah? I hate Hezbollah btw, but facts are facts.

1973 Israel was within days of losing the war and being thrown into the sea until America stepped in. That's real life facts.

Winning is winning fam.

Thats the point here.

I don't understand why you want it to be ONE way when its THE OTHER way.

The Soviets backed damn every muslim country in the area AND STILL Israel won.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Muslims don't force conversion. Ones intention matters when taking the shahada.

yeah, thats a downright lie.

 

[dontspeakmuch]

It was shared land.... due to the Zionist movement it was VERY dangerous to allow jews to stay around your land, families, or people (at least in the mid east)...

keep in mind these people (back then and now) were manipulating the media and money. Also, currently the Jews do grimy stuff like secreat missions, running up in hotels murking people in other peoples nations, running financial institutions and controlling political lobbies,,, and all sorts of shyt. So it might have been wrong of the arabs, but it was a great decision on their part. Especially following WW2 when the UN GAVE then a piece of land not giving a fukk about the peace in that area.

Anyway, during the time frame the op is talking about... the Jew wanted to leave. They even state now that they weren't forced out. We're just trying to paint them as the constant victim.

yeah, thats a downright lie.

It's impossible to do it. Prove to me that it happens. Maybe they can put a gun to your head and make you say the shahada, but it doesnt count if its not in your heart and knowing this, it would be useless to do it. I have however, heard stories of POW being held by mujahideen and they eventually willingly take a shahada.

 

[dontspeakmuch]

It was shared land.... due to the Zionist movement it was VERY dangerous to allow jews to stay around your land, families, or people (at least in the mid east)...

keep in mind these people (back then and now) were manipulating the media and money. Also, currently the Jews do grimy stuff like secreat missions, running up in hotels murking people in other peoples nations, running financial institutions and controlling political lobbies,,, and all sorts of shyt. So it might have been wrong of the arabs, but it was a great decision on their part. Especially following WW2 when the UN GAVE then a piece of land not giving a fukk about the peace in that area.

Anyway, during the time frame the op is talking about... the Jew wanted to leave. They even state now that they weren't forced out. We're just trying to paint them as the constant victim.

yeah, thats a downright lie.

It's impossible to do it. Prove to me that it happens. Maybe they can put a gun to your head and make you say the shahada, but it doesnt count if its not in your heart and knowing this, it would be useless to do it. I have however, heard stories of POW being held by mujahideen and they eventually willingly take a shahada.