Why would you have a back up qb that doesn't run the same offense as the starting qb?

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Yep.
Teams don't build to run anymore, so everything falls on the qb, starter or backup. If teams built themselves the old school way they'd be a lot more consistent. Instead of living and dying by 1 player.
It's silly in all honesty.
In Madden, I build with my punter. That's the foundation of my team. Sometimes, I even let my punter takes snaps at qb.

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Yep.
Teams don't build to run anymore, so everything falls on the qb, starter or backup. If teams built themselves the old school way they'd be a lot more consistent. Instead of living and dying by 1 player.
It's silly in all honesty.
Exactly,and it just exposes the qbs faults quicker and more pronounced.

Qbs used to get drafted and sit and learn. Nowadays they just get tossed to the fire because nobody has the patience for that.

Add in an intense media presence that has fans convinced the only way to win is an elite qb and you have teams building like thats the only way to win.
 
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A lot of teams' offenses are catered/shaped to suit the skillset of their starting QB - it makes total sense that the backup can't run the same offense - simply because they don't have the same skillset as the starter.

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A lot of teams' offenses are catered/shaped to suit the skillset of their starting QB - it makes total sense that the backup can't run the same offense - simply because they don't have the same skillset as the starter.

:manny:

The Cowboys couldn't find a qb that can throw the ball 10 yards? I mean I understand Romo adds escapability that few have but damn, without him your entire offense consists of dump offs?
 

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Im not sure if the standards are fallen. Its just the game today is pass crazy. So every team feels the need to pass it as much as possible. Where back in the day teams tried harder to just build a winning team and the qb was a cog in that machine instead of being the machine themselves today.

Theres never been a ton of talent at once in the qb position. Its a very hard position to be great at it.
You are right but I also think the middle class quarterback talent is gone. That's where you saw depth.
 
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The Cowboys couldn't find a qb that can throw the ball 10 yards? I mean I understand Romo adds escapability that few have but damn, without him your entire offense consists of dump offs?
Besides the backups typically playing strictly to manage the game (using a smaller set of plays), all of the receivers are used to running routes according to when/where/how the starting QB is going to typically throw the ball and vice versa (starting QBs knowing how fast and how sharp their receivers run routes and what window size/catch point he can trust his receiver to make a play). You're less likely to see a team's coaching staff trust a backup enough to take chances by throwing into coverage, unless they're a seasoned veteran.

It's especially harder for today's backups due to defenses adapting and centering their schemes around higher volume/more complex passing systems.
 

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Besides the backups typically playing strictly to manage the game (using a smaller set of plays), all of the receivers are used to running routes according to when/where/how the starting QB is going to typically throw the ball and vice versa (starting QBs knowing how fast and how sharp their receivers run routes and what window size/catch point he can trust his receiver to make a play). You're less likely to see a team's coaching staff trust a backup enough to take chances by throwing into coverage, unless they're a seasoned veteran.

It's especially harder for today's backups due to defenses adapting and centering their schemes around higher volume/more complex passing systems.

True, i could see that affecting 1 week. But we going on week 4 with the Cowboys, they should be able to run something other than dump offs by now. WTF was the backup doing in practice all year? Is he not getting any reps at all?
 
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True, i could see that affecting 1 week. But we going on week 4 with the Cowboys, they should be able to run something other than dump offs by now. WTF was the backup doing in practice all year? Is he not getting any reps at all?
Probably speaks more about Garrett's shytty playcalling, his lack of trust in Weeden, Weeden's shytty QB play and the lack of a deep threat with Dez being out - than it does for the whole 'why doesn't the backup QB run the same offense as the starter?' dilemma. I'm guessing the offense will open up a bit more once Cassel starts. Not replacing their secondary offensive anchor (DeMarco) for this season, hasn't exactly helped out either.

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The Cowboys couldn't find a qb that can throw the ball 10 yards? I mean I understand Romo adds escapability that few have but damn, without him your entire offense consists of dump offs?

It's not really about throwing the ball 10 yards, it's about the decision making and how fast someone processes information...

Weeden cannot process what is happening when the play starts very fast...or even at all...and sense he cannot process it fast enough it really only leaves him with two options every play...throw to the primary read or dump it off...

And that is before you even get into the pre read stuff at the line of scrimmage...
 
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