Why You Should Not Go to Law School

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At some point in their life, everyone thinks they should go to law school. You may in fact think you want to go to law school now.

You're wrong.

I don't know you, I have no idea what the facts of your life are, but that doesn't matter, you aren't the exception. For the overwhelming majority of people (>99.9 percent), law school is the wrong choice.

How can I know this? Because I've been you -- I went to law school for the same reasons you think you should go -- and I was wrong. I should never have gone to law school, and you shouldn't either.

If you're not thinking about going to law school, you can skip this whole post, or just send it to your friends who are thinking about going and thank your god that you're not them. But if you are one of the many thinking about law school, start by asking yourself one simple question:

"Why do I want to go to law school?"

Yes, it's an obvious question, but almost everyone in your position either overlooks it or avoids it with rationalizations. So answer it, right now, to yourself. You want an easy way to stay in school, you want to be guaranteed a good high-paying job -- whatever reason(s) you think you want to go to law school, spell them out and make them explicit to yourself.

I have heard every single answer to this question there is. These are the 6 wrong reasons I hear most often (see if your answer is in this list):

The 6 Wrong Reasons to Go to Law School

1. "I like arguing and everyone says I'm good at it."


Of all reasons to go to law school, this is the worst by a large margin. Know who else likes arguing? Sports talk radio hosts, cable news talking heads and teenagers -- i.e., idiots. If you like to argue just for the sake of being contentious, you shouldn't pick a job based on this unresolved emotional issue of yours, you should get counseling for it.

If you like arguing for the intellectual challenges it can present, that's an understandable and reasonable position. Everyone likes a healthy, intelligent debate right? Well, understand that being a lawyer has almost nothing to do with arguing in the conventional sense, and very few lawyers ever engage in anything resembling "arguments" in their commonly understood form. You aren't going to be sitting around a fine mahogany desk sipping scotch with your colleagues discussing the finer points of the First Amendment; you're going to be crammed in a lifeless cubicle forced to crank out last-minute memos about the tax implications for a non-profit organization trying to lease office space to a for-profit organization (if this gets your juices flowing, maybe the law is for you after all).

You won't even be having fun discussions in law school. In law school, the people who want to "argue" a lot are called "gunners" and are reviled by everyone, even the professors. Make no mistake about it: Law school is not a bastion of intellectual discourse. It is a fukking TRADE SCHOOL. You are all there to be trained to think and act exactly the same way as everyone else in the profession, so you can then be a drone in the legal system. No one is interested in your opinion. The only one of those that matters is the one expressed, with a capital "O", by the judge(s) in whatever case you are currently reading.

Beyond that, to be genuinely good at legal "arguing," you must be dispassionate, reasonable and smart. I have never met a person who was any of those things who also said they were going to law school because other people told them they were good at arguing. It indicates only the shallowest understanding of the law and pathetically sloppy critical-thinking skills. If arguing is really why you want to go to law school, save your money and start a blog about American politics where you can shout into the echo chamber of imbeciles all you want without bothering anyone smart who has things to do.

2. "I want to be like Jack McCoy from Law & Order [or insert your favorite legal TV show character]."

I have little sympathy for this perspective. It is 2012, if you still allow yourself to be misled by the bullshyt on TV, it means you are either very naive or an unrecoverable moron, and you should immediately drown yourself in the nearest toilet to save the world the frustration of having to deal with you and your stupidity. Let me be VERY clear about this for you:

The actual job of being a lawyer is NOTHING AT ALL like what you see on TV.

It is possibly less like the real thing than any other profession depicted on television. Every doctor I've ever talked to scoffs at shows like ER and House, but they all say that at least the diagnoses are connected to the physical symptoms we see and are treated with the proper kinds of drugs. In legal dramas, the exact opposite is the case. Don't think so? The next time you get a DUI (if you're going to law school to be like Jack McCoy this WILL happen), represent yourself and try to give a speech while questioning the arresting officer. You won't make it longer than 30 seconds before you're held in contempt and locked up for wasting everyone's time. Is that a little harsh? Maybe. Welcome to the grown-up world.

There is NO lawyer/law procedural that even remotely shows what it's like to be a lawyer. You know why? Because being a lawyer is not only soul-crushing, it's REALLY BORING, and that doesn't make for good TV. If you want to know what it's like to be a lawyer, go work in a law office for a summer. Or shadow a lawyer for a day or two. There's nothing like a day with a lawyer to disabuse you of the notion that anything in the legal profession is like TV.

3. "It's the only way I can use my humanities degree."


Having a soft major is nowhere near the career death sentence that so many make it out to be. The world is changing, and the U.S. economy with it. Our economy is shifting to a service and information based economy, and soft majors are already becoming more and more valuable.

Why? Because a services and information-based economy needs what the Humanities creates: literate, intelligent, well-read people who can write and communicate ideas effectively. The demand for these people is not going to flutter out. In fact, it will only grow stronger as the economy continues to shift and the supply of qualified candidates remains insufficient. Do not make the mistake of thinking law school is your only option. That is simply not true. In plain English: A humanities major now has many, many options they didn't have in the pre-Internet era.

Beyond that, this reason belies an assumption: That you have to get a job. When you finish school, everyone knows about the two most obvious options: 1. Get a job working for someone else or 2. Get more schooling. But there is a third option: Carve your own path in the world. This can take many different forms, like starting a company [for example see Paul Graham's piece]. Or it could take the form of many other sorts of lifehacking activities [for example, see Tim Ferriss' muse concept, or Chris Guilliebeau's $100 start-up concept].

If you limit yourself to the choices presented to you by people who one did one of those two things -- get a job or go back to school -- then you obviously aren't going to understand that. There are other ways to make a living, and lots of people following those paths, you just have to go look for them.

4. "I want to change the world/help homeless people/rescue stray kittens/do something noble."


Wanting to help others is great, but if you are one of those rosy-eyed dipshyts who sign anti-sweatshop petitions while wearing Nikes (made in Vietnam by children) and listening to your iPod (made in China by Foxconn virtual slaves) you know what's going to happen when you finally go out into the world trying to change it equipped with just a law degree and a healthy dose of optimism? Life is going to kick you in the teeth. Repeatedly.

If you go to law school with just some vague notion of public service and no sense of real, directed purpose, you WILL regret your decision. My first day in law school, the entire class was gathered in a lecture hall and they asked everyone who wanted to be in public service to raise their hand. At least 100 people did. Do you know how many ended up in a public service job three years later? Three of them. The other 97+ didn't stop wanting to make the world a better place, they just didn't know what it actually MEANS to help poor people for $30,000 a year when they raised their hands three years earlier. They hadn't tested their moral resolve in the crucible of suffocating debt. A $140,000/year job at Skadden Arps is a hard thing to ignore when you're staring down the barrel of a $150,000+ debt burden and $1,700+ monthly loan payments that start real quick after graduation.

If you want to cultivate a life full of bitterness and resentment a good way to do it is go to law school thinking you're going to be a crusader for change, then end up having to become the very opposite -- a corporate lawyer drone -- to pay off your law school debt. This happens to pretty much everyone in law school. If you want to change the world, that's awesome -- go do it. Don't go to law school, having a law degree doesn't help you.

5. "I don't know what else to do."

If you are coming to the end of your schooling and don't know what to do, or just otherwise feel lost in life, you shouldn't feel bad. It's OK. You're not alone. At least you have an excuse: You're barely old enough to drink, you don't need to know what you're going to do with the rest of your life at this point.

If your parents and guidance counselors say that you should have already "picked a direction" or "figured out a plan for your future" by now, ignore them. The pressure and admonitions they are foisting upon you aren't about your happiness or your success; it's about theirs. It's about validating themselves as good parents and qualified counselors. If they see you go to law school, to them it means you a) got good grades, b) went to college, c) didn't drop out, d) didn't commit (m)any felonies, e) have ambition and f) will make six-figures. By every traditional measure, they have succeeded in their prescribed roles.

None of this, of course, has anything to do with whether you are happy or fulfilled or even like the law; which are the most important considerations when making a decision like this. So relax. If you need more time to find your calling, that's fine, take it. Try lots of things, see what you like. Try working in a law firm, you'll see REAL fast that you hate it (or you'll love it, and thus validate your law school choice).

6. "I want to make a lot of money."


If there's one thing you can't argue with, it's that lawyers make a lot of money, right? I mean, a corporate lawyer starts at something like $140k a year, that's huge, right?

Wrong. WRONG.

$140k+ to start sounds like a lot of money, until you break it down. Currently, most large corporate firms -- where you will find these six-figure starting salaries -- require somewhere between 1,900-2,000 billable hours from their associates. This is not the total number of hours you have to be in the office, this is the total number of hours of actual work you can bill directly to a client. For a smart attorney with a solid work ethic, it typically takes about 10 hours in the office to accrue 7 billable hours; tracked most often in 6 minute or 1/10th of an hour segments. If we take the lower end of the billable requirement threshold (1,900 hours), that means a typical attorney has to work about ~2,700 real hours in a year to meet their minimum billables. To put that in perspective, 2,700 hours is equal to working 7.5 hours a day EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR.

Using a $140,000 base salary, that's equivalent to making ~$50/hour [FYI -- here's a short list of other careers that pay $50/hour or more and do not require a) 3 years of post-graduate schooling and $150k in debt or b) you to work 365 days a year to get it].

This is what people mean when they talk about something that looks too good to be true. There is a reason so many lawyers leave the legal field: Being a lawyer -- especially a lawyer at the type of big corporate firm that seemingly pays so well -- SUCKS.

The American Bar Association has published several studies about the incredibly low job satisfaction of lawyers and in every survey they publish, most lawyers say they would NOT be a lawyer if they had it all to do over again.

Perhaps the most important thing for you to understand, there are NOT an unlimited number of jobs out there that start at $140,000/year. In fact, there aren't many at all, and pretty much ALL of them go to kids who come from the Top 15 law schools. Beyond that, the overall legal job market has dried up, even the low paying jobs. They aren't going to tell you any of this at law school recruitment receptions; in fact schools continue to tell prospective students the opposite, which is why more and more of them are being sued for fraud.

I cannot be any clearer about this: You are not guaranteed a job out of any law school, much less a job that pays six figures.


Tucker Max: Why You Should Not Go to Law School
 

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Now, ask yourself the question again:

"Why do I want to go Law School?"

If ANY of the 6 above reasons describe why you want to go to law school, stop now. Seriously. No qualifiers on this statement, just stop. DO NOT GO. You will regret it.

If you think you have one of the good reasons to go to law school you're still not out of the woods:

The Problem of Debt

There are many perfectly valid reasons to go to law school. You may very well have one of them. But even if your reason for going to law school is rock solid, you still need to consider one major thing: Debt.

I've mentioned this multiple times above, because it is so crucially important to making the right decision about law school. Debt is the elephant in the room that law schools never tell you about, but ends up dominating your life.

Law school is three years long. If you go to an average law school and don't get any tuition help or scholarships, you are going to spend ~$150,000 all-in, at least. That's three years of tuition, assorted fees, books and living expenses. Unless you are one of the few whose parents set up a tuition fund for BOTH your undergrad AND your grad school, that means you are going to be taking loans. This means you are going to start your law job already 150k in the hole -- and that's not counting any undergrad debt you may be carrying. This means you are going be making a $1,700/month payment for about a decade. On just your grad school debt.

And make no mistake about it: Once you are in debt, they own you. In a straight-forward approximation, a starting salary of $140,000/year would put our intrepid new lawyer in the 28 percent tax bracket. Loan payments will take another 14.57 percent of his per-unit-time income. To a first-degree approximation then, it is accurate to say 42.5 percent of our INL's income dissipates before being touched by him/her. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Even if you started off law school with the best of non-profit save-the-world intentions, when you are staring a $1,700 per MONTH payment in the face, you WILL end up scurrying to work for a white collar sweatshop. And you will hate it, like everyone does, and you WILL want to leave, like everyone does, but you won't be able to -- like everyone else can't -- because you will have too much debt to pay off.

So you're going to spend a decade toiling 12 hours a day for what? To pay off the debt you incurred to get that job!? HOW CRAZY IS THAT!?!

Well guess what -- THAT IS THE LAW SCHOOL RACKET.

But Don't Just Believe Me

I asked some friends who are lawyers to read a preliminary version of this post and give me their feedback. I'll leave you with their quotes:

I would HIGHLY recommend that anyone who is thinking of law school spend a year as a paralegal or as some sort of staff at a law firm before going to law school. Enough so that you can see 1) what young attorneys have to do 2) hear how much they bytch about hating it and 3) dispel any notions about ANY law firm caring about their associates or being "family friendly". Because that is a damn expensive mistake to make if you find out you don't like the practice of law. I went to a very good, very expensive law school and started out at a big firm. I hated it. I have since moved on to a smaller firm, which I do like more. But in all honesty, if I could do it all over, I would not go at all. And if I wasn't staring 100k in student loans in the face, I would probably quit firm practice altogether.
I have worked as a paralegal in some form of legal (family, bond, litigation) for 14 years now. I have yet to meet an attorney who is satisfied with his lot in life. I am not saying everyone non-esquire is thrilled with theirs, just that on a whole, these are some of the saddest, most down-trodden people I have known in my life. Most of my best friends are attorneys so I hear first hand about the student loans they are STILL paying off at 38; the huge houses and Mercedes' they purchased well beyond their means to "keep up with the Joneses" (a.k.a. every other attorney in the firm); the misery that is their ongoing marriages; the ridiculous hours; ice cold dinners; the utter lack of originality in their conversations; etc., etc., etc. Listening to these woes sucks the energy out of me everytime they come up. The most common nugget I hear: "Why, God WHY did I choose this profession?"
Nobody ever told me that I would be keeping time sheets that require me to divide my days into six-minute increments. Nobody told me I would have to choose between doing it right and doing it on a budget. The words "the client is cost-sensitive" burn my ears. But the marketing shyt is the worst. The push to bring in business and schmooze potential clients and "cross-sell" within the firm. It's worse at some firms than others, but it is absolute misery to me no matter how much or how little marketing I may be doing. I've been practicing for 10 years, most of that time in big firms, and I have yet to get used to the business side of things. So I suppose that would be my take on things: even if you are going to law school for all of the "right reasons," odds are you will spend a significant portion of your day as the used-car salesman from Hell whose boss is nickle and diming you to an early grave.
As I write this, it is 85 degrees, sunny, with a slight, cooling breeze coming from the West. The only reason I know this is that I took twenty minutes to run to get a sandwich to eat at my desk. I am sitting in a basement office which houses three of us, putting off research on state law fair debt collection vs. the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and the definition of a creditor to write this post. If that paragraph alone doesn't deter someone from law school, then I don't know what will.
And my personal favorite, from a friend of mine who is a partner at a huge multi-national firm:

I am a partner in one of the largest law firms in the world (measured by either revenue or # of lawyers). I had two associates pull all-nighters last night. I doubt either of them has slept more than 3 or 4 hours any night this week. I wonder if they are regretting their decision to go to law school? I'd ask, but I don't really care. Tucker, I'd really prefer if you did not do anything to cut off the supply of drones. Fortunately, the ones who will actually be persuaded by your speech are not the ones we want working here. I actually agree with everything you said in your speech. However, whoever posted the job satisfaction stat about 76 percent being unsatisfied, that means 24 percent are satisfied. You may be in the 24 percent.
Conclusion

Here is the funny thing about this piece: Every bit of knowledge in this piece was conferred to me before I got to law school. Much of it was told to me BY LAWYERS who repeatedly stressed how much they HATED their jobs. At this point, even the ABA is telling college kids not to go to law school.

You know what I did? I ignored it. I mean, sure all of those other a$$holes may be miserable and may hate the legal profession, but what do they know, they're only lawyers? If you're laughing at my ignorance, you're right to laugh. I was stupid.

Don't be me. Don't go to law school. Go do something with your life that you'll enjoy, is rewarding and productive and makes the world a better place.
 

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Funny this is posted here because actually since most of the Coli is minorities (allegedly :beli: ) law school isn't a bad choice. If you are black or Latino you don't need crazy numbers to have decent options in terms of price and schools

But you gotta be careful and use common sense. :why: The problem is the people who go this route typically got polisci philosophy liberal arts shyt degrees. They think theyre going to graduate college and advise the president or work for the UN or some shyt :usure: when they can't find that kind of work then law is the next step until you realize most of the decent paying jobs are corporate soul sucking jobs and the actual do gooder jobs people want are impossible to get except for the elite schools.

Then to top it off these people have no understanding or don't believe in statistics since they learned mostly useless shyt in college :huhldup: so even learning about the job market statistically has no impact on them

Since I started teaching the LSAT I've heard the dumbest justifications for going. This one girl in my class was aiming for a 160 and wasn't scoring anywhere near there on practice tests. I told her to postpone and take it later and she said she already had all her apps out and couldn't afford the 150$ administration fee. This girl was legit broke and unemployed and had to bum rides of dudes to get to class. When I told her law school costs over 200 grand she shrugged it off and said shell just transfer to a top 20 after her first year :mindblown: do people really think its that easy to transfer? :childplease:

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Funny this is posted here because actually since most of the Coli is minorities (allegedly :beli: ) law school isn't a bad choice. If you are black or Latino you don't need crazy numbers to have decent options in terms of price and schools

But you gotta be careful and use common sense. :why: The problem is the people who go this route typically got polisci philosophy liberal arts shyt degrees. They think theyre going to graduate college and advise the president or work for the UN or some shyt :usure: when they can't find that kind of work then law is the next step until you realize most of the decent paying jobs are corporate soul sucking jobs and the actual do gooder jobs people want are impossible to get except for the elite schools.

Then to top it off these people have no understanding or don't believe in statistics since they learned mostly useless shyt in college :huhldup: so even learning about the job market statistically has no impact on them

Since I started teaching the LSAT I've heard the dumbest justifications for going. This one girl in my class was aiming for a 160 and wasn't scoring anywhere near there on practice tests. I told her to postpone and take it later and she said she already had all her apps out and couldn't afford the 150$ administration fee. This girl was legit broke and unemployed and had to bum rides of dudes to get to class. When I told her law school costs over 200 grand she shrugged it off and said shell just transfer to a top 20 after her first year :mindblown: do people really think its that easy to transfer?

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Thank you. This needed to be said. I see this same sh*t all the time. All I do is keep my mouth shut...

The worst is people pursing MBA's. "I want to get an MBA, sohh I can boss others around, and be a manager"


I'm about to apply to Coli State Law in the fall ( :troll: )
 
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Thank you. This needed to be said. I see this same sh*t all the time. All I do is keep my mouth shut...

The worst is people pursing MBA's. "I want to get an MBA, sohh I can boss others around, and be a manager"


I'm about to apply to Coli State Law in the fall ( :troll: )

I have nothing to add, he's right. But this isn't anything new, look at the first few pages of law school discussion thread if I remember right. We've been saying this shyt since SOHH. I mean DANJA goes to the same caliber of school as I do, I said from jump if I didn't get into this shyt, I wasn't going to law school.

So I won't repeat that spiel. But again, the irony is the very article you're talking about defends liberal arts degrees which DANJA isn't doing. It basically comes down to this, people get liberal arts degrees from non-elite universities and then don't know what to do with themselves so they just go to law school with no sense of direction. There is a place for those degrees if you know what you're doing. Most of my friends made it work. :manny:

It's not even that people don't necesssarily know better, but everyone thinks that they're unique and they'll be that one person that makes it. What they don't realize is that with legal jobs drying up, those kids from elite universities are now coming and taking the type of legal jobs that others usually get. Everyone else at my summer job last year was on the law review at their respect schools and were rising third year students, I never even got asked for a transcript. :heh:
 
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Thank you. This needed to be said. I see this same sh*t all the time. All I do is keep my mouth shut...

The worst is people pursing MBA's. "I want to get an MBA, sohh I can boss others around, and be a manager"


I'm about to apply to Coli State Law in the fall ( :troll: )

theres no point in saying anything. they need to research this stuff themselves. and like i said if you start pulling out stats youll get a blank stare or some stupid retort. barnone is right, i cant believe how many educated college grads there are who still think statistics is some voodoo shyt that doesnt apply to them :childplease:

another girl who was in my class fit all the stereotypes. history degree from a cal state, now an associate at in n out. of course her dream school was loyola maramount in LA. the irony is that her boyfriend is a 3L there and has NO JOB lined up, yet she spent every class bragging about how he was a super smart law student. some people want to go just for those bragging rights. eventually she bombed the LSAT and got a 148 and last i heard she was studying for GMAT and hoping to get an MBA :beli:

i dont really blame them, people have to pick their major way before they are old or mature enough to fully comprehend the implications, i was lucky that i was interested in stuff that actually turned out to be useful, but i was just as ignorant at the time

but i still say despite the negative press and bad market, if youre black (and to a lesser extent latino) and have a decent GPA law school is a good option. you only need to crack the low to mid 160's which is not that difficult if you put the time and effort in, and you can go to a top-10 school, which is still on balance a good investment (though not without significant risk), or at least a good local school for at a large discount

its amazing how many minorities dont know this. this one nigerian girl sent me the list of schools she's applying to. She had a 3.6 and a 165. among the schools on her list were pepperdine, davis, hastings, and UCI :scusthov: she wanted to know if she had a shot at the "top 20". that list went straight to the bushes and i told her to only apply to the top 10 and save on the app fees. :birdman:


she now has acceptances at harvard, columbia, and boalt, among others
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theres no point in saying anything. they need to research this stuff themselves. and like i said if you start pulling out stats youll get a blank stare or some stupid retort. barnone is right, i cant believe how many educated college grads there are who still think statistics is some voodoo shyt that doesnt apply to them :childplease:

another girl who was in my class fit all the stereotypes. history degree from a cal state, now an associate at in n out. of course her dream school was loyola maramount in LA. the irony is that her boyfriend is a 3L there and has NO JOB lined up, yet she spent every class bragging about how he was a super smart law student. some people want to go just for those bragging rights. eventually she bombed the LSAT and got a 148 and last i heard she was studying for GMAT and hoping to get an MBA :beli:

i dont really blame them, people have to pick their major way before they are old or mature enough to fully comprehend the implications, i was lucky that i was interested in stuff that actually turned out to be useful, but i was just as ignorant at the time

but i still say despite the negative press and bad market, if youre black (and to a lesser extent latino) and have a decent GPA law school is a good option. you only need to crack the low to mid 160's which is not that difficult if you put the time and effort in, and you can go to a top-10 school, which is still on balance a good investment (though not without significant risk), or at least a good local school for at a large discount

its amazing how many minorities dont know this. this one nigerian girl sent me the list of schools she's applying to. She had a 3.6 and a 165. among the schools on her list were pepperdine, davis, hastings, and UCI :scusthov: she wanted to know if she had a shot at the "top 20". that list went straight to the bushes and i told her to only apply to the top 10 and save on the app fees. :birdman:


she now has acceptances at harvard, columbia, and boalt, among others
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Is black
has decent somewhat decent GPA. (3.4)


maybe I should apply to LAW School



































:childplease: Good sh*t though. I'll keep that in mind...
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maybe I should apply to LAW School


















:childplease: Good sh*t though. I'll keep that in mind...
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AAAAAAAAAAAAND it's less competitive for you guys now than it was when I applied. The number of people applying and taking the LSAT went down. There are 9 less black student in the class below mine than in my class. If you're keep that GPA with engineering and get like a 164, you'll get into everywhere.
 

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I wont tell people not to be a lawyer if thats what they really want to do(and that goes for anything people pursue). But one of the main reasons people want to be lawyers is because The profession of being has been glamorized by TV and the movie industry forever. Alot of people think every lawyer makes 100 K, wears armani suits, works in a big law firm, on big cases but that isn't close to being true.

The practice of law is divided between the partners and associates working for a handful of big law firms with a heavily Wall Street and corporate clientele, drawn from just 15 schools, and everybody else. The majority of lawyers aint Eating like its portrayed
 

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but i still say despite the negative press and bad market, if youre black (and to a lesser extent latino) and have a decent GPA law school is a good option. you only need to crack the low to mid 160's which is not that difficult if you put the time and effort in, and you can go to a top-10 school, which is still on balance a good investment (though not without significant risk), or at least a good local school for at a large discount
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AAAAAAAAAAAAND it's less competitive for you guys now than it was when I applied. The number of people applying and taking the LSAT went down. There are 9 less black student in the class below mine than in my class. If you're keep that GPA with engineering and get like a 164, you'll get into everywhere.
Do you guys still feel this way about black students applying to law school? I have been thinking more and more about applying lately now that I've realized being a teacher isn't for me.
 

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Do you guys still feel this way about black students applying to law school? I have been thinking more and more about applying lately now that I've realized being a teacher isn't for me.
Question you should be asking yourself is why you want to be a lawyer

What exactly will a law degree help you do
 

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once we forget and them boys are ready rev up those MBS's again
we'll need more lawyers, I'm guessing 2020
 
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