WI brehs, can we get an explanation?: Wisconsin reports widest score gap between Black and white students in nation

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Teach kids basic reading and math skills before kindergarten. I’m confident that it will solve more educational problems than we would ever predict. If kids know 100 sight words, numbers up to 100, how to count by 5s and 10s, and single digit addition by age 5 it will make the the first 2-3 years of school much easier.

Give kids free Pre-K/Childcare at age 4 and 5 and watch the numbers change

Agreed....and it has to start at home.

Know a couple of teachers and it's a common trend for Black and Brown parents to drop off their kids at Kindergarten without much preparation.

You're already behind at that point. My mom's had me reading at 3, doing arithmetic at 4 etc. That early boost made a huge difference throughout school. I remember Black kids in 4th, 5th and 6th grade that could barely read aloud in class...like damn near illiterate.

The gap we're seeing in WI could be a combo of poor preparation at home plus crap schools for Black kids.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

The white man is holding our black kids back. I guarantee you the black students are purposely given the worse teachers who sint good at teaching and then they get worst books. Hell I bet the food they're given ain't fresh and hot like the white kids.

This country ain't shyt

It's 2023, knock off the white man is holding us back nonsense. Why should they be expected to look out for our interests when they are looking out for theirs. Folks need to realize collectively the way we are operating isn't working and find ways to fix it.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Agreed....and it has to start at home.

Know a couple of teachers and it's a common trend for Black and Brown parents to drop off their kids at Kindergarten without much preparation.

You're already behind at that point. My mom's had me reading at 3, doing arithmetic at 4 etc. That early boost made a huge difference throughout school. I remember Black kids in 4th, 5th and 6th grade that could barely read aloud in class...like damn near illiterate.

The gap we're seeing in WI could be a combo of poor preparation at home plus crap schools for Black kids.

You can see this real early in children. There are young children who speak damn near in complete sentences when they’re three years old. And then there are children who sound like babies at 5. That’s not some inherent gift, it’s a sign of parents reading to their children. Having conversations with their children. Too often black children enter kindergarten already behind because they haven’t been read to, and their pronunciation is off. And it’s hard to simply catch up from there when you’re already behind.

 

[5thbornpowerseed]

Take your kids out of public school.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

exactly what explanation is needed? ITS RACIST

Expound? How much much of the fault lies with their parents?

 

[Nigerianwonder]

My mom used to explain the gap like this. Two children, similar households, black Jerome and white Jimmy. When Jerome gets a D, his teacher says better luck next time. When Jimmy gets a D, the teacher calls his parents, sets up a meeting, whips out school resources, and does whatever it takes to get him back on track. And I used to believe that for a very long time. It probably does explain some of the disparity...but it can't possibly explain all of it. There's something else going on and I can't put my finger on it. It can't be because black kids are just inherently stupid, and it can't be because all teachers are inherently racist (while simultaneously being super effective at holding back black kids but nobody else). So what is it?

You got it backwards. It's not the teachers job to call the parents if their kid is failing. It's the parents job to call the teacher. And that's what involved parents do.

Jerome's parents don't even look at his grades until it's too late and he is being held back or not graduating on time. If the parents don't care the teachers won't either. They know whose parents will call them and raise hell if they give their kid a D and whose parents don't care at all.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

We're seeing disparities across income levels, meaning a black kid from a middle or upper class household is still performing worse than white children from similar backgrounds. That's troubling as fukk to me and it's been going on for awhile. Because it means even outside of the broken single parent households where a parent isn't actively working with their child to excel in school, the gap persists.

My mom used to explain the gap like this. Two children, similar households, black Jerome and white Jimmy. When Jerome gets a D, his teacher says better luck next time. When Jimmy gets a D, the teacher calls his parents, sets up a meeting, whips out school resources, and does whatever it takes to get him back on track. And I used to believe that for a very long time. It probably does explain some of the disparity...but it can't possibly explain all of it. There's something else going on and I can't put my finger on it. It can't be because black kids are just inherently stupid, and it can't be because all teachers are inherently racist (while simultaneously being super effective at holding back black kids but nobody else). So what is it?

Only thing I kind of wonder about is culture. My little cousin stays with me every now and then. 15 years old. Comes from a good family, two parents. Yet at least once a year I get the "he got a C" call. And he's gotta stay with me and get a pep talk, while me and my girlfriend try to spit game and show him the cool shyt he can have/do if he gets his grades up. The thing I notice when he's around his friends is that he pretends to be this hard nikka who doesn't care about shyt but uh...fam you live in the suburbs. You play the trombone! You aren't a thug. So why are you pretending to be one? And I think part of that culture is thinking being disruptive in class is cool, not taking school seriously is cool, etc. And I think that mindset rots the brain...

The American environment is uniquely harmful to Black people.

When the popular conception of Black people in the White imagination, fueled by White capitalism, is tinged with negative behavioural traits - it will cause a double consciousness in Black people to see themselves through the eyes of Whites and normalize those traits. Especially young Black people who don’t know any better.

In places where your society is entirely Black, like in some islands of the Caribbean and in Black Africa, the popular conception of what Blackness is, is radically different.

If you are raising a Black child in the West, you must engage in constant counter-brainwashing to protect their minds from the influences of White supremacists.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

Expound? How much much of the fault lies with their parents?

how much racism have the parents experienced

1/4 of my folks are from wisconsin (indian country). we been having to keep our foot on them peoples necks for centuries to this day. the shyt don't stop.

 

[3rdWorld]

Black parents, where are you?

Can't leave your kids learning and future in the hands of the Devil himself.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

The 2022 NAEP test scores are the first nationwide results since the pandemic.

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In the first national assessment of students since the pandemic, Wisconsin again posted the widest score gaps between Black and white students of any state, now by even greater margins.

At the same time, Wisconsin scores statewide climbed in the rankings. Though the state’s 2022 scores declined since the last national assessment in 2019, most states saw steeper drops.

Known as the “Nation’s Report Card,” the U.S. Department of Education’s National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) was administered to sample schools in every state between January and March 2022. It tested fourth- and eighth-graders in reading and math.

Wisconsin scores continued to exceed most other states, ranking in the top 10 in math for fourth and eighth grades, and in reading for eighth grade. Fourth-grade reading, as it was in 2019, continued to be the state’s worst area.

Wisconsin reports widest score gap between Black and white students in nation

The 2022 NAEP test scores are the first nationwide results since the pandemic.

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It's because of the pandemic. It hurt black kids (black boys specifically) the most. Black patents didn't have the luxury of maneuvering around their kids learning from home. The downside is that CACs will use COVID academic stats to push an agenda.

 

[Bop Gun]

Teach kids basic reading and math skills before kindergarten. I’m confident that it will solve more educational problems than we would ever predict. If kids know 100 sight words, numbers up to 100, how to count by 5s and 10s, and single digit addition by age 5 it will make the the first 2-3 years of school much easier.

Give kids free Pre-K/Childcare at age 4 and 5 and watch the numbers change

This is what's on the agenda here in Texas, since 2018 or 2019, finally passed somewhat, Free Pre-K for 3 and 4 year olds but have to be eligible (poor, in foster care, in a District with at least 15 kids signed up).

It's coming up again for Vote, Free Pre-K for everyone regardless of income, but even if it passes, the individual States decide whether to implement it or not (We know how Republicans are anti-education today so good luck in Red States).

Back to what you said, and you hit the nail on the head. It's two-fold, schooling and parenting. Parents need to be engaged with their children's education early and most importantly, when it seems FUN to the child, and on the flip side, invest into their education by enrolling them in better schools, whether Private or Public. It is our Responsibility to ensure they are being properly prepared for their Futures.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

Jerome's parents don't even look at his grades until it's too late and he is being held back or not graduating on time. If the parents don't care the teachers won't either. They know whose parents will call them and raise hell if they give their kid a D and whose parents don't care at all.

@ Baltimore schools. I don't think it's this bad in Haiti.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Black parents, where are you?

Can't leave your kids learning and future in the hands of the Devil himself.

Of course, you shouldn’t let your historical enemies teach your children but African Americans haven’t adopted home schooling networks en masse - or Afrocentric schools en masse. Perhaps in the coming decades…

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

how much racism have the parents experienced

1/4 of my folks are from wisconsin (indian country). we been having to keep our foot on them peoples necks for centuries to this day. the shyt don't stop.

So again, I ask you: what do we do to close the gap?

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

Black parents, where are you?

Can't leave your kids learning and future in the hands of the Devil himself.

It's the pandemic. They did a study and found that the pandemic set back black kids in terms of learning by a large margin. Yoi gotta be able to afford a laptop, a nice internet connection, a Webcam etc.

Baltimore public high school students earning below 1.0 GPA nearly doubled during pandemic

Nearly half of all Baltimore high school students enrolled with the school district earned below a 1.0 GPA during the first three quarters of this school year, according to media reports, a statistic administrators have attributed to a year that saw unprecedented disruptions to learning nationwide.

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