Will a 3rd party candidate ever be elected President?

Will any non democrat or republican ever be elected president?


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A nikka can't wait for the day when a Google representative becomes President brehs. :blessed:

but they don't hire minorities.
and watch big brother security take over. Google working with the nsa....oh no!

I feel law enforcement needs to wear cameras at all time as well as security. people/civilians should not be monitored unless interacting with LE.
 

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The eternal, elusive dream of a third-party president




By Philip Bump September 24 at 11:05 AM
We are just about at the point in the presidential election cycle when the nation's politically obsessed begin toying with one of their favorite preoccupations. What if, they say as they lean back in expensive chairs and stare idly at the ceiling, a third-party candidate were to run for president? Hundreds of miles away on the third floor of 30 Rock, Joe Scarborough's cheeks flush for reasons he can't explain.

This isn't just the domain of people eager to inject a little more color into the standard red-blue presidential cycle. It's ingrained in the American consciousness, the idea that anyone could build up enough support to actually launch a campaign for -- and win -- the presidency, regardless of political persuasion. Most of us remember 1992, when a rather unusual Texan named Ross Perot leased half-hour blocks of the main TV networks to show us charts about the budget. That guy got 19 percent of the vote.

But Ross Perot was a rarity. Since 1856, the first year that the presidential race was largely between a Democrat and a Republican -- a trend that hasn't ended since -- independents and third-partiers have gotten about 4.6 percent of the vote. Since 1972, even in this new era of mass media and independent outreach -- the age of Perot and John Anderson and Ralph Nader -- the ratio is almost exactly the same: 4.6 percent.

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That average doesn't tell the whole story, though.. It's at 4.6 percent largely because some candidates do better than the average and drive it up, while in many years all of the third-party candidates do terribly. Here's how the best candidates and all other non-major-party candidates have done each year since 1856. The party of the top vote-getter is listed underneath; the ones in bold are the ones who did unusually well.

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Those two spikes at the beginning are when the party system was first getting sorted out. But then the big spike in 1912, which avid PBS viewers will recognize as the third-party bid of one Teddy Roosevelt. In 1924, it was a new iteration of Roosevelt's Bull Moose/Progressive Party, doing well again with Robert La Follette. In 1968, George Wallace, running to scoop up votes from Southern states angry at the national Democrats. In 1980, John Anderson, swept away by Ronald Reagan. Then Perot's two bids. The 2000 race run by Ralph Nader -- the spoiler that ruined Al Gore's dreams -- was relatively small, underneath the long-term average.

At no point in time over the course of the past 38 elections has an independent candidate done better than 27.4 percent of the vote -- and that guy was a former president. And at no point since 1864 has an independent done better than Roosevelt's 88 electoral votes either.

Which is not to say that it can't happen. But for an outside candidate to put together a viable bid -- particularly now and particularly given the myriad ways in which the two parties maneuver to prevent such a thing from happening -- is about as close to impossible as politics has to offer.

Philip Bump writes about politics for The Fix. He previously wrote for The Wire, the news blog of The Atlantic magazine. He has contributed to The Daily Beast, The Atlantic, The Daily, and the Huffington Post. Philip is based in New York City.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...a0d4c2a-86a2-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394?tid=sm_fb

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Just wanted to throw 2 more quick notes:

1. :russ: @ this poll closing in 2018

2. It'd be gully as fukk if a candidate nominated by a major party got rogue last second and had a split ticket (R/D or D/R or Either one and a 3rd)..won the presidency then ran re-election campaign under a new coalition type party. :wow: They'd have to basically be willing to get assassinated but :manny:

TRUMPSET BERNSET what? OW
 

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Perot > Nader "At one point in June, Perot led the polls with 39% (versus 31% for Bush and 25% for Clinton)." "A Gallup poll showed Perot with a slim lead, but on July 19 he suspended his campaign, accusing Republican operatives of threatening to sabotage his daughter's wedding. :upsetfavre::upsetfavre:(Them Neo-Cons) He was accused by Newsweek of being a "quitter" in a well-publicized cover-page article (Them Libs :upsetfavre:). After resuming his campaign on October 1, Perot was dogged by the "quitter" moniker and other allegations concerning his character. On Election Day many voters were confused as to whether Perot was actually still a candidate."

Ended up with 19% in the '92 election. Perot drew pretty much equally from both parties too and all states, whereas Nader basically just drew some disenchanted Dems and Independents.

In 2nd grade, we had a mock presidential vote (96 perot/dole/clinton)...i was :troll: and went around campaigning for Perot by telling people if they didnt really care just vote for Perot. A young VMR liked his charts and knew no one really gave a fukk and wanted to mess with the teachers:mjlol:...Perot ended up winning the mock vote...the teachers were like :krs::dahell:

Im the goat campaigner. #trumpset parallels yea the swagger swells

this is history correcting itself!!!

Nader v Perot = Sanders v Trump 2016 yuuuuuuu
 

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Yes because more people are getting conscious now. What I mean is, people are no longer being brainwashed by media (Bernie Sanders is an example of this).
 

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People complain about Dems and Republicans yet no one supports or has taken 3rd party seriously in presidential elections :heh: why is this?
here's what happens with 3rd parties. they are great on a few things, then are HORRIBLE on a few other things. Then they sound like cooks on other things. this cant be your 3rd party for it to be a feasible option.

The way i see a 3rd party winning is two things have to happen. you have to have a person thats not a cook, but that is extreme on some issues but not horrible on others. the 2nd thing that has to happen is we the people will have to be so fed up, that we break party lines and just say the hell with it. i'm voting for this 3rd party candidate regardless of what the repubs tell me or the dems tell me about "dont do it, if you do, it will split the vote." if we do that, the votes wont be split like they think. it will be split correctly to people's liking. not just party votes(when people vote for a candidate they didnt want to vote for but its someone in their party so its better them then the other party.)
 
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