Remember when Willie knocked out melle Mel. willies the toughest rapper..he was fighting pro.
Didn't even know about that. Had to look it up and ended up coming across a classic interview.
Willie D: Bell Ringer | AllHipHop.com
AllHipHop.com: What do you think of Muhammad Ali?
Willie D: I ain’t like Ali. When he fought [Leon] Spinx, I was so happy Spinx whooped his ass. “Whoop that mothaf**ka’s ass!” I was happy when [Larry] Holmes whooped Ali’s ass. [laughing] S**t-talking takes a lot of energy out of you too. Just imagine what Floyd [Mayweather] would do to them boys if he didnt talk all that s**t. But he don’t talk s**t in the ring – he handles his business in the ring.
AllHipHop.com: This is old news, but can you recap the Hip-Hop boxing event that you, Freddie Foxxx, and Kurtis Blow and others were involved in. It’s often talked about, but we want an official recap. Did you knock out Melle-Mel?
Willie D: Yeah. That’s accurate, Mel! What happened was, the organizers called us in Houston and said they were throwing a celebrity boxing match and wanted us to be a part of it. I was a part of it, Dope E from the Terrorists – who got knocked the f**k out! Boy, Freddie Foxxx knocked Dope E the f**k out! That s**t was funny. He put his hands on him. Kurtis Blow put them hands on some mothaf**ka! LL [Cool J] was supposed to be in it. A lot of people was supposed to be there. Anyway, I remember bein’ backstage in the dressing-room. A reporter asked Mel how he thought the fight would go. Mel was tryin’ to be diplomatic and s**t, “You know, I’m gonna go out there, and try to have a good fight.” Then they came to me, and I was doing some sit-ups. I said, “First, he gonna come out and throw a couple jabs. Then, he gonna take off runnin’. I’mma hit him with a right, then hit him with a left. Hit him with a right, then a left. Hit him with a right, then hit him with a left. And he gonna get carried away.” [laughing] Mel [laughed it off playfully].
We go out, they takin’ bets like in prison fightin’. Me and Mel was the main event. Me and Mel get to the ring. The fight was sanctioned, so we had a real referee. We get to the ring, and I come out, and to be honest, I didn’t go out to really knock anybody out. I was trying to put on an exhibition. We go out, and I throw a couple jabs. Mel come across my head with an overhead right and he raised me. The force that he did it with – he was tryin’ to tear my ass off. The crowd [responded]. Off the bat, I said to myself, “It’s over. Get him outta here.” The ref broke us up. I came back out again. I shot two jabs up to set it up. He fell for it. I caught him with an overhead right, and he went to sleep. I remember, they counted to ten, and Mel was still out. He was doing some Tweety-bird s**t. His eyes was crossed up. I forgot it was sanctioned, ‘cause I asked the ref, “Let him fight.” I wanted people to get their money’s worth, and the fight just started. “Get back over there!” So I returned to my corner. Ten more second passed, Mel still ain’t up. Finally, he comes to – eyes still crossed. One of his boys was like, “Mel, it’s over.” Mel said, “It’s over? Well, who got the belt?” [laughing] That’s what he said! Clear as day, I remember that s**t. I already had the belt wrapped around my waist. Since then, me and Mel talked on the phone a few times. He still wants a rematch.
AllHipHop.com: Still got the belt?
Willie D: It’s on the mantle.
Real talk right here.
AllHipHop.com: You had a lyric on “Put The Gun Away” off your first album, “I love to talk blow for blow / Against any hoe / They don’t make my kind anymo’, so put the gun away.’” What’s that lyric mean?
Willie D: S**t, that’s where it all started with me, man. I came up in an era where people were still fighting with their hands. Once in a while, somebody might get shot. But for the most part, people still f**ked with their hands. That’s what that’s about. I feel like people would talk less s**t if they had to fight with their hands. Like a gun, “I’m gonna talk this s**t. If a mothaf**ka run up on me, I’mma shoot ‘em.” Anybody can shoot a gun. There’s five-year-old killers out there right now. Women shoot people. It ain’t hard. But them hands is a mothaf**ka.
These rappers talkin’ s**t today, they might not say it if they knew they’d have to see a mothaf**ka.