Will the NOI ever regain a presence in mainstream rap?
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straightcash
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The Blood thing popped off because NY prisons and jails cracked down hard on Five-Percenters by the mid-1990s. Before 2004 they also had NGE designated as a "gang". The "Black car" used to be led by Five-Percenters and Muslims, but suddenly Five-Percenters weren't even allowed to proselytize. The "Latino car" was led by the Latin Kings and Netas.
By the time NY prisons and jails loosened their restrictions on NGE, the damage was already done. The NOI and NGE were both less influential in NY by then, meanwhile, the Bloods themselves were allowing Latino and other races in. Muslims are still powerful in NY prisons but they're predominantly Sunni. A lot of Crips and GDs become Muslim nowadays.
Also in the late-1990s (or sometime around then), the Netas from Puerto Rico sent the order to dissolve Netas at the street level. It was to return to being a prison gang only. The Netas numbers in the prisons went down whereas in the streets it collapsed entirely by the time of the 2000s when the Blood shyt really took off.
Then in the second half of the 2000s, a lot of new homegrown New York gangs started forming; the two biggest Uptown were the YGz and the YBz at the time. Most of the new homegrown gangs were also ethnically-inclusive from the jump. Most of the gangbanging in NYC is by the homegrown gangs (including Trinitarios and DDP), Crips and GDs.
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Another thing that made the NOI lose prominence in the Black community is all the information and documentaries being more available about Farrakhan and NOI possibly having something to do with Malcolm’s death.
Also, Farrakhan messed up by always being on the side of rappers and never calling them out for the negative stuff they were doing. Current example: How the heck are the NOI headquarters in Chicago and they aren’t making any real noise about all the drill stuff?
Also, Farrakhan messed up by always being on the side of rappers and never calling them out for the negative stuff they were doing. Current example: How the heck are the NOI headquarters in Chicago and they aren’t making any real noise about all the drill stuff?
ReturnOfJudah
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What are you talking about. Labels have never been less relevant or in control since recorded music started. You don't need a label to put shyt out there. They are not the reason your average rapper today carries themselves like a clown. Let these lies die. Nobody is stopping rappers from being more socially conscious or pro black
UWasntThere
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Yeah the jews really weren't too fond of him saying they practiced a gutter religion
Nah it's over breh. We lost.
Plankton
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Let's be real here. The principle of the NOI are just to much for a Black person to really fulfill.
No smoking weed
No drinking alcohol
No pork no shellfish
No having slang in your vocabulary or using excessive profanity ( You never heard Minister Farrakhan drop an F bomb or and S bomb )
And all that 'what goes on behind clothes doors with your wife' stuff is null and void
An MGT isn't supposed be sucking dikk and you aren't supposed to eat her pu$$y. And no sodomizing aka no butt sex. I once asked a minister at the mosque "But if it's behind closed doors and me and my wife have oral sex, how will anyone else know?" The minister hit me hard with his response and said "But you'll know."
Had me like
because it hit me...the discipline is supposed to be behind closed doors as well. And i'd be corrupting my wife as well as myself if we went against the principles when no one was looking.The NOI principles are too much for the average Black person. Try telling a Black Man he can't get his d1k $ucked by his wife and he can't drink or smoke weed. Try telling a Black woman to cover up her hair and don't show legs or cleavage. The average person will be like "Maaan fukk all that, I'm gonna do me."
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