Will we become Gods?

[The Lord Doc]

Transhumanism: a very literal interpretation of Nietzsche's Ubermensch concept. Part of me sees the appeal of it, but it isn't ultimately something that I would choose for myself if the option were available. I've come to believe that death, real death, makes life more valuable. When you accept death's inevitability and finality (the likelihood that your ego won't transcend the physical), you can pour all your energy into making the life you know that you have worthwhile.

 

[MewTwo]

Transhumanism: a very literal interpretation of Nietzsche's Ubermensch concept. Part of me sees the appeal of it, but it isn't ultimately something that I would choose for myself if the option were available. I've come to believe that death, real death, makes life more valuable. When you accept death's inevitability and finality (the likelihood that your ego won't transcend the physical), you can pour all your energy into making the life you know that you have worthwhile.

Man you guys are too brainwashed by religion. What makes life valuable is your experiences, your memories, the people in your life (i.e.: friends, family), the ability to help others and do good. Why the hell should any of that have to end?Why should there be a finality or final stage? I can't accept that.

 

[Swagnificent]

Transhumanism: a very literal interpretation of Nietzsche's Ubermensch concept. Part of me sees the appeal of it, but it isn't ultimately something that I would choose for myself if the option were available. I've come to believe that death, real death, makes life more valuable. When you accept death's inevitability and finality (the likelihood that your ego won't transcend the physical), you can pour all your energy into making the life you know that you have worthwhile.

so you claiming its impossible to appreciate life without death?

wow

you religious people sure are delusional

though I doubt it, I hope idiots like you forgo the life extension technology when it comes around......it'll be nice to weed out all the morons from the gene pool permanently

 

[MewTwo]

so you claiming its impossible to appreciate life without death?

wow

you religious people sure are delusional

though I doubt it, I hope idiots like you forgo the life extension technology when it comes around......it'll be nice to weed out all the morons from the gene pool permanently

Random question: Are you black? (if you feel uncomfortable answering that publicly you could just PM me).

I ask because everyone around me is too psychologically entwined with religion and socialistic ideals. I sometimes feel that I'm the only black anarchist/agnostic/transhumanist on the planet. I personally believe science and technology is progressing slowly (everyone else thinks technology is going too fast). We should have colonized the moon by now and have flying cars. It's sad to see people cling onto medieval superstitions in 2013.

What happens to sex once we merge with machines?

One proponent of transhumanism is using technology to enhance human function (i.e.: being able to run faster, jump higher, an enhanced brain that can store more memory and process information faster, enhanced eyes that can see in the dark and through walls, super strength, the ability to survive in extreme climates, etc.). So why not use technology to better the sexual experience and give people super enhanced orgasms? Imagine being a man and being able to have intense orgasms that rival female (multiple ones too). Viagra was the first step. Imagine when/if they make something stronger.

 

[MidniteJay]

What happens to sex once we merge with machines?

 

[The Lord Doc]

so you claiming its impossible to appreciate life without death?

wow

you religious people sure are delusional

Pretty much. Have you actually taken the time to think your position through to it's logical conclusion? Sure, immortality sounds good at first, but doesn't there come a point when every action you could possibly take loses it's novelty? It seems to me that everything would become banal after a while, even fukking alien bytches (assuming that there is other intelligent life and that it's remotely humanoid).

By the way, I'm not religious in the slightest. In fact, I'm an unabashed atheist. I can't help but notice that your fear of death is very similar to that of most theists I know. As you put it, the only difference between you and them is that they place hope in a nonexistent afterlife, while you place hope in a technology that likely won't be available to the common person. And before you bring up your cell phone analogy again, everyone having a cell phone doesn't upset the status quo, but a large percentage of the human population not dying? That's a different matter all together.

 

[MewTwo]

Pretty much. Have you actually taken the time to think your position through to it's logical conclusion? Sure, immortality sounds good at first, but doesn't there come a point when every action you could possibly take loses it's novelty? It seems to me that everything would become banal after a while, even fukking alien bytches (assuming that there is other intelligent life and that it's remotely humanoid).

By the way, I'm not religious in the slightest. In fact, I'm an unabashed atheist. I can't help but notice that your fear of death is very similar to that of most theists I know. As you put it, the only difference between you and them is that they place hope in a nonexistent afterlife, while you place hope in a technology that likely won't be available to the common person. And before you bring up your cell phone analogy again, everyone having a cell phone doesn't upset the status quo, but a large percentage of the human population not dying? That's a different matter all together.

I understand what you're saying but I believe life is what you make it. That's why you have to reinvent yourself and find new hobbies/interests to keep it interesting (i.e.: learn to play an instrument, learn a new language, learn martial arts, etc.). There's so many things in the world for us humans to absorb.

Even if life somehow loses it's luster I'd rather have a boring life (with endless possibilities of learning new stuff and doing new things) than be dead.

 

[The Lord Doc]

I understand what you're saying but I believe life is what you make it. That's why you have to reinvent yourself and find new hobbies/interests to keep it interesting (i.e.: learn to play an instrument, learn a new language, learn martial arts, etc.). There's so many things in the world for us humans to absorb.

Even if life somehow loses it's luster I'd rather have a boring life (with endless possibilities of learning new stuff and doing new things) than be dead.

So do I, but I also believe part of the satisfaction that comes from fulfilling your self-determined purpose is struggling against your mortality to do so. The reason this doesn't appeal to me is the same reason why an after life or being god in the literal sense doesn't; that shyt gets old. Yes, the idea of being stronger, faster, smarter, and forever young sound cool at first, but I imagine that it would be torture after the first thousand years.

As much as we complain about the human condition, I sincerely believe that struggling against and overcoming parts of it makes life worth living. If this technology is perfected and made as easily accessible as a cell phone, then there would be no point in helping other and doing good, because they wouldn't need your help. Ask yourself, why do you cherish the experiences, memories, and people in your life?

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

What happens to sex once we merge with machines?

stroke game 2.0...breaking that robo-p*ssy down.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

The Stem Cell is the key, the ability to replace defunct organs and enhance current ones is truly amazing. I don't think the next wave of tech will be mechanical but techno-organic. Bio-Med is the future.

But as far as being "gods"....there is God in all man per my beliefs. I know many here in HL think differently and that's ok. But the human being is perfect even in its imperfections. Don't even ask me how.

 

[YaBishh]

Man you guys are too brainwashed by religion. What makes life valuable is your experiences, your memories, the people in your life (i.e.: friends, family), the ability to help others and do good. Why the hell should any of that have to end?Why should there be a finality or final stage? I can't accept that.

its not being brain washed. Its just the fabric of reality. Everything in life is worthwhile to live for. The good and bad, all the experiences. Im not even religious so that cant be your argument everytime someone argues your reason for believing that once we pass thats the end of everything. What proof do u have that once we pass that its just black darkness? None its just speculation. No one has the answers until we go. Besides if you can live forever which you wont cuz youll have to be a billionaire in the least, what you ganna do for 500 years that you aint been done yet? Thats the beauty of life. We all have an expiration date some day, so you make the best of each and everyday.

 

[Swagnificent]

Random question: Are you black? (if you feel uncomfortable answering that publicly you could just PM me).

I ask because everyone around me is too psychologically entwined with religion and socialistic ideals. I sometimes feel that I'm the only black anarchist/agnostic/transhumanist on the planet. I personally believe science and technology is progressing slowly (everyone else thinks technology is going too fast). We should have colonized the moon by now and have flying cars. It's sad to see people cling onto medieval superstitions in 2013.

Yes I'm black and your wrong about science/technology progressing slowly. Its progressing at a breathtaking pace. Moon colonization and flying cars are not that significant in the grand scheme of things. I think most people when thinking about the future got it wrong. Humanities future is not out in space or even in the "real world." Our future is in the digital world. Full immersion virtual reality inside digital worlds created by us that are indistinguishable from the real world to our senses is the future. Basically I see the future of making being living inside the Matrix (one we create that isn't a distopia) rather than colonizing space.

Our robots/AIs will be the ones colonizing space. Virtual reality is alot more appealing than real reality when you consider the space of worlds that can be created and the instant transmission of information. Why travel one year in a spaceship to the Mars in the real world when you can access an exact copy of the experience of being at Mars in seconds inside a virtual reality program?

Almost all serious futurists agree that full immersion virtual reality like the Matrix should be available anywhere from 2035-2050. That is basically tomorrow in the grand scheme of things.

The first generation of virtual reality exists right now with headsets like the Oculus Rift and directional treadmills like the Omnitrack. In 10 years those headsets will evolve to being contact lenses and sophisticated haptic devices. The holy grail will be once we master nanotechnology and can have non-invasive nanobots attach to the neurons in the brain and send in artificial sensory data while shutting off sensory data from the real world. That would truly be jacking into the Matrix. And by that time computer graphics will be more than powerful enough to render photorealistic environments that are indistinguishable from real life. That should happen anytime between 2035-2050. After that its just about making larger more realistic worlds.

Imagine being able to create worlds like they did in Inception. That is the future of mankind. Not flying cars or moon colonization. That shyt is just childs play. What I'm talking about is creating entire new universes.

 

[Swagnificent]

So do I, but I also believe part of the satisfaction that comes from fulfilling your self-determined purpose is struggling against your mortality to do so. The reason this doesn't appeal to me is the same reason why an after life or being god in the literal sense doesn't; that shyt gets old. Yes, the idea of being stronger, faster, smarter, and forever young sound cool at first, but I imagine that it would be torture after the first thousand years.

As much as we complain about the human condition, I sincerely believe that struggling against and overcoming parts of it makes life worth living. If this technology is perfected and made as easily accessible as a cell phone, then there would be no point in helping other and doing good, because they wouldn't need your help. Ask yourself, why do you cherish the experiences, memories, and people in your life?

you sound so stupid and you can't even tell

however, even if your right, I'd rather take my chances in getting bored with life after a few thousands years than dying after 80

you claim that we'll get bored, I say lets find out......if anything I think the more we live the more we'll realize the less we know and the more there is out there to know.....plus as long as we have loved ones around us I can't think of life ever getting too boring

your right that if I was the only person with immortality and there was no one else around, it would be torture......however if there are still billions of people and billions of unexplored stars and galaxies......I doubt it ever gets boring

 

[ltheghost]

I don't know if this tech will make us Gods. But it will sure as hell make sure we ain't human anymore. Human 2.0

Now we already know the rich and important people will be the first with this tech. While the poor won't get it..maybe at all. So we could end up with an immortal class vs a mortal class. The big problem with immortality is that the planet won't be able sustain immortal people. So, how about those who want to be immortal have to leave the Earth in search of a new planets?

 

[Master Teacher]

If you want to live longer do not ejaculate during sex.
Your only suppose to bust when you want to create life
because your giving up a part of your life force thats why you feel weak afterwards

If you stop yourself just before release, your semen will evaporate and turn into a gas traveling up your spinal cord all the way up to your brain and the energy will be reused.