Windsor: LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan

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No he wouldn't, that heat team was a poorly built team

People forget those bull teams with Jordans were among the best squads ever assembled in NBA history

Lebron never played on a team as good or with a coach who was respectable like Phil Jackson

Lebron been the coach one every squad he's been on let's be real

Put Lebron on those bull teams and he would six peat with ease, those teams were stacked with all tyes of talent

wade was washed up, and bosh never lived up to his billing in miami, they scraped by winning those championships, the team was not great at all

jordan was great, the SG position was weak in his era and that's just a fact

The Thunder team with westbrook, harding and durant was better than anytime Jordan beat in the finals the spurs teams that beat him were all around good just like jordan's bulls, and they would make a competitive great series in a fantasy match up
LOL@3 elite players being a poorly built team.

True. The 2nd 3Peat, not the first.

Phil Jackson wasn't revered when he first became the Bulls coach. Those Miami teams were better than the first 3peat bulls.

He couldn't 3peat with Wade and Bosh, you think he winning 6 in a row with Grant & Pippen?

Jordan played in a weak SG no argument there.

Nah. Thunder were green. They'd get manhandled by Utah and Seattle. They can't actually play seattle since they are seattle but whatever. shyt even them trash ass Blazers team wuld give OKC that work.
 
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LOL@3 elite players being a poorly built team.

True. The 2nd 3Peat, not the first.

Phil Jackson wasn't revered when he first became the Bulls coach. Those Miami teams were better than the first 3peat bulls.

He couldn't 3peat with Wade and Bosh, you think he winning 6 in a row with Grant & Pippen?

Jordan played in a weak SG no argument there.

Nah. Thunder were green. They'd get manhandled by Utah and Seattle. They can't actually play seattle since they are seattle but whatever. shyt even them trash ass Blazers team wuld give OKC that work.

Goddamn, Wade washed up, if he was the wade of old they would have dominated

Phil Jackson is leagues above mike brown, spoeltra, and I don't even no the name of the new guy
at least Phil Jackson was a player

Lmao, yes Bosh is one of the 50 greatest players in NBA history, Jordan played with 2 of team

Bosh is not some world beater, what he did in Toronto was no different than Kevin love in minnesota, and a good player padding stats on a terrible team that always loses, he's not an all time great player like Pippen and Rodman, not even CLOSE

Also the bulls had ROLE PLAYERS AND A BENCH
They had good players at every position

Miami didn't have a bench which is why the struggled in the finals

you don't know shyt about boxing

LMAO, Lebron would beat Utah with the cavs he made it to the finals with

and he would beat Seattle with those same cavs as well

Suns, Seattle, Utah, Portland, are not good ass any of the spurs team, especially the one lebron played against first
 
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If LeBron beats Golden State he will be the GOAT.

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Every year it's an "if" with LeBron. "Even though he failed this year, that year and the other year, if he just does this one, new thing.......that's it, he's the goat. Forget about his various no shows, forget about popovich leaving him wide open in the finals and daring him to shoot, ray allen saving him, quitting on the cavs, quitting anytime something doesn't go his way. If he just does this one thing:banderas:. " He always gotta do something he failed to do the year before in order to finally surpass mj. People are so anxious to want to crown this dude, and he never comes through. It's laughable. Just like peyton manning.

His whole career is based on ifs and excuses. The nikka is in his 12th year and people are saying, "Wait, he could still end up the greatest." 12th season?! Ya'll can't tell if he's the greatest already? Jordan's 12th full season (1998), this shyt wasn't even a question. It was a foregone conclusion. Bird was calling rookie Jordan the best ever (fukking 1 year in). Magic said Jordan was the greatest ever in '93 (9th season). These are the goats calling him the greatest before his 10th year in the league. Only people calling bron the greatest are his teammates and nikkas jordan shytted on. No contemporary opponents. Folks don't have to play 20 years for you to see if they're the greatest.

Barry Sanders and Jim Brown didn't have to play 15 years for you to know they were the greatest running backs.
Wayne Gretzky was 10 years old when he got called the great one and he proved it immediately when he turned professional. You didn't have to wait for him to retire.

If you gotta wait for the end of a 15 or 20 year career to enter the debate of the greatest, you aren't the greatest.
 

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Michael aint freezing up and losing to Dirk in 2011.:yeshrug:

you dont know what he wouldve done with that zone. keep in mind he couldnt shoot from 3. lets stop pretending like MJ was some unguardable beast shooting %60 everytime he walked on the floor. put him on the heat with no floor spacing and see how well he does.
 

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How can he be better than Jordan when he isn't even definitively better than Kobe yet

he is easily a better player than kobe IMO. kobe does not have nearly the same impact on a game because he is smaller.

lebron weighs about as much as karl malone. think about that. yet still usually the most athletic guy on the floor.

you are a damn fool if you would pick kobe over lebron to build a franchise around IMO
 

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Lebron took the cavs to the Finals with zero help, no wing man, no help at all, what are you talking about, he went to the finals buy himself
all jordan can do is score points, Lebron plays team ball which is why he can go to any team and make them a contender

Lebron playing with a young pippen wouldn't even be fair

Lebron have great shooters starting and going off the bytch, with bigs who can shoot jump shots and rebound would not be fair

Lebron has never had a horace grant, he's never had a dennis rodman, he's never had a scottie pippen, Wade was washed up when Lebron got there, and he's not as good as pippen in a supporting role

Pippen won damn near just as many games as jordan with the same time when he retired and he was the man on the team, they would've made the finals but got robbed

Jordan never lead a team buy himself to the finals period

Allen Iverson was the only other person who lead a team of scrubs to the finals off the strength

Jordan lost to the goddamn magics on his return eason, who just happened to have Horace Grant, who was missing from the bulls squad
so what do they do, go get Dennis Rodman the greatest defensive player of all time lmao

Lebron never played with such talent ever
:what:He took almost 2 years off and was back for like 20 games. :beli:@ Wade being washed when Lebron got to Miami. He fukking outplayed Lebron in the finals against Dallas. Lebron is the reason they lost. Your whole post is fukking terrible. :skip:
 

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you dont know what he wouldve done with that zone. keep in mind he couldnt shoot from 3. lets stop pretending like MJ was some unguardable beast shooting %60 everytime he walked on the floor. put him on the heat with no floor spacing and see how well he does.
You really think a 27 year old Jordan would average 2 points in the 4th quarter against that Dallas team.:what:
 
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:what:He took almost 2 years off and was back for like 20 games. :beli:@ Wade being washed when Lebron got to Miami. He fukking outplayed Lebron in the finals against Dallas. Lebron is the reason they lost. Your whole post is fukking terrible. :skip:

He took 2 years off and STILL LOOKED LIKE JORDAN, you acting like he sucked

They missed what Horace Grant provided, why do you think they went and got rodman

Lebron was worn down in the finals against the mavs, you can count on your hand the amount times D wade out played lebron in the playoffs
and it was the Heat's first YEAR TOGETHER, and they had terrible coach who couldn't make adjustments to the zone

lebron's the reason the lost, he's the REASON THEY WERE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, he's the reason they have two championships, it's not by accident he's back in the finals


damn you are retarded, funny you use the skip bayless, because you just rehashed all the dumb shyt he use to say and cuban shut that down

Where's the heat franchise at now that Lebron's gone, the same place the cavs were

Cavs didn't even make the playoffs last year and they ARE IN THE FINALS
 

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I like Lebron and think he's great but c'mon now....not yet
If he loses to Golden State this shyt will be put to rest real quick
this shyt really is HUGE for his legacy

i almost feel like this finals is him lookin at a fork in the road: one way is path to goat contender, other path is...outta the convo

gonna be a fukkin series :wow:
 
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