Winston, top 5 in the draft or no?

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No definite proof but i think he does. Ive seen his hands when he is motioning & they look small. So its my option but if you want to cry about my option good ahead.
hard to tell unless you have a measurement
 

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you would have to be a fool to draft this guy


He is the best QB prospect but, he isn't good enough to go top 5

From an on-the-field perspective, Winston is a better prospect than Bortles and the latter went top 5. With this in mind what is your reasoning that Winston isn't good enough?
 

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From an on-the-field perspective, Winston is a better prospect than Bortles and the latter went top 5. With this in mind what is your reasoning that Winston isn't good enough?
Bortles wasn't worth a top 5 pick. The Jags are a dumb franchise.
 

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Bortles wasn't worth a top 5 pick. The Jags are a dumb franchise.

Nawrocki ranks Bortles as a first round talent, which is probably consummerate with NFL team's general ranking. If Bortles is a first round draft projection and Winston projects as a better NFL starter, then Winston can reasonably be considered a top 5 talent.
 

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Nawrocki ranks Bortles as a first round talent, which is probably consummerate with NFL team's general ranking. If Bortles is a first round draft projection and Winston projects as a better NFL starter, then Winston can reasonably be considered a top 5 talent.
we all know hes a top 5 talent but he wont be one

whatever team that gets him in the teens is gonna be winning, hes better off anyways being on a team ready to win
 

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he's a top 5 talent, and easily the best and most ready for the league qb, but he's not going top 5 cause of all the off the field shyt...the nfl is trying too hard to clean up their media image right now to let him go top 5...which is bullshyt, but i hope he falls to the cowboys....
 

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we all know hes a top 5 talent but he wont be one

whatever team that gets him in the teens is gonna be winning, hes better off anyways being on a team ready to win

basically....it's gonna be a lot of teams pissed at themselves for letting him slip by...it's like randy moss all over again....
 

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he's a top 5 talent, and easily the best and most ready for the league qb, but he's not going top 5 cause of all the off the field shyt...the nfl is trying too hard to clean up their media image right now to let him go top 5...which is bullshyt, but i hope he falls to the cowboys....

I have a strange feeling he will end up in Houston some type of way
 

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I have a strange feeling he will end up in Houston some type of way

I can see them trying to make that happen...they def need a qb....it all depends if they fall in love with mallett or not....

what I think will happen draft night: if he doesn't go top 5, we will see some team trade up to get him 6-10....the dude is too talented to go past that...all the shyt they look for: size, pocket awareness, makes all the throws, knows how to extend the play, finds ways to wins, etc...he possessess...also: he's a hell of a leader and you can tell his teammates love to play for him....anyone can see that shyt week in and out by how they play...if they didn't, after all the dumb shyt he's done, we'd know....he probably wouldn't be the starter if they didn't...
 

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I'll give him that, maybe I'm hating a little too much. Jameis has swag also. Very, very hard to pressure him cause he gets the ball out so quickly

I consider a QB's reaction to pressure one of the most important parts of NFL talent projection. Pocket presence partly comprises a QB's ability or (lack thereof) to manuveur in the pocket, keep his eyes down the field, step up away from pressure and complete downfield passes. Most of time a QB's challenges consist of extra added pressure or exotic coverages. QBs with strong pocket presence mitigate the pressure's effects such that blizes don't lead to dramatic declines in performance. This talent helps negate a defensive coordinator's most powerful weapon and has the idiosyncratic effect of influencing coordinators to pressure a QB less, which basically gives that QB a cleaner pocket to work from. Big Ben's elusiveness coerces some coordinators into pressuring him less, which invariably leads cleaner pocket's--his preference, no doubt.
 

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I'm starting to wonder if Jimbo is actually holding him back. Some very questionable play calls this season.
 
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