With John Cena winning his 16th World Championship, where is he all time?

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Top 10? 20? 30? :jbhmm:
 

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I don't know. I don't put much stock into your amount of title wins since it's scripted. How memorable your run is and how much buzz you generate around the product matters much more to me. He's in a bit of a shytty situation because he's such a company guy that he isn't opposed to :flabbyvince: sabotaging everything else for the last 12 years as a means of elevating him by default. Without anyone else really being protected at all it hurts him too. I can't really think of any classic moments besides maybe his work with the rock that you can really attribute credit to him as well. Just taking temperature out here, what are some of the first memories or words that come to mind when you hear his name or see his face?
 

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His last 2 years really need to be taken into account of how good a wrestler he is really and not just cause he's being carried by good wreslters. Couple that with the longevity and he's top 15-10

What do u mean good wrestler? I mean this guy kicks out any and all things to no sell to get to that finish..now if his name was 98 Goldberg or Undertaker from 1990-1996..that's cool. But he's just a Marine and wigger wannabe character..so that part of his match has never and will never make sense. Last really good Cena match without the Superman bull $hit was probably Bryan/Cena Summerslam 2013. The matches he's done with AJ are just stuff for the kids...Styles makes it look real crisp and on point but is it a psychology fest like Savage /Flair from WM 8? HELL fukkING NAH...that's why "Cena is great in the ring"matches are hilariously overrated. Kick out fests. They took the Austin/Rock formula and went DragonBall Z with the $hit.
 

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What do u mean good wrestler? I mean this guy kicks out any and all things to no sell to get to that finish..now if his name was 98 Goldberg or Undertaker from 1990-1996..that's cool. But he's just a Marine and wigger wannabe character..so that part of his match has never and will never make sense. Last really good Cena match without the Superman bull $hit was probably Bryan/Cena Summerslam 2013. The matches he's done with AJ are just stuff for the kids...Styles makes it look real crisp and on point but is it a psychology fest like Savage /Flair from WM 8? HELL fukkING NAH...that's why Cena is great in the ring matches are hilariously overrated. Kick out fests. They took the Austin/Rock formula and went DragonBall Z with the $hit.

His US title open challenge was pretty good
 

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His US title open challenge was pretty good


I don't think so. I saw alot of burying in that run...the Cesaro matches were legit but he murdered so many finishers to put himself over.

Remember the Angle/Rock matches? When Angle would hit the Angle slam towards the end, Rock would barely kick out and would sell big time to get to a point where he could find the Rock Bottom on Angle. He didn't just do a double FU after going through the fukking ringer for 25 minutes like Cena did last night. It was so absurd..how can u not laugh? Lol.

There is no one..Meltzer included that can defend Cena in the ring to me without exposing their lack of knowledge over work rate and storytelling. It will stick out every single time.
 

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I don't think so. I saw alot of burying in that run...the Cesaro matches were legit but he murdered so many finishers to put himself over.

Remember the Angle/Rock matches? When Angle would hit the Angle slam towards the end, Rock would barely kick out and would sell big time to get to a point where he could find the Rock Bottom on Angle. He didn't just do a double FU after going through the fukking ringer for 25 minutes like Cena did last night. It was so absurd..how can u not laugh? Lol.

There is no one..Meltzer included that can defend Cena in the ring to me without exposing their lack of knowledge over work rate and storytelling. It will stick out every single time.

Nobody really got buried in that run. That was a good example of people getting the rub by having a good match.

Buried would be going out there with no offence and getting squashed and that wasn't happening
 

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Just a damn shame and shows you how far into the shythole stephanie mcmahon will take this ship
Shes the one who gave him the rap gimmick and it went to hell from there
 

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Nobody really got buried in that run. That was a good example of people getting the rub by having a good match.

Buried would be going out there with no offence and getting squashed and that wasn't happening


Don't tell me no one got buried..Cena got the last word on the mic and proved himself right every single time until Del Rio popped up and beat him in like 10 minutes pretty clean. The only good thing about his US title run was he was away from the main title and actually didn't get a instant payback win on Del Rio.
 
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