With this Xbox news, Consumers LOSE and don't even realize it yet

[The Devil's Advocate]

You don't follow gaming to know what you yappin about. I'll just address the games you mentioned. Grand Theft Auto they was ready to go full online with GTA4 but the systems wasn't able to handle what they had planned. Then they tacked the online part on, but that was originally part of the standard game. There was articles on this back then, you can look for it I'm not. Assassins creed online and offline will be one. You will have missions and you'll have to dodge other assassins/etc. This will be whats good in the next one (not black flag I don't think)

Sports games you said You obviously don't play sports games. I know I know, NFL2K5 is the shyt... GTFOH

Final Fantasy online aka Final Fantasy 15... yeah. You even play FF11?
You probably haven't. Its all online, but it plays basically identical to its offline counterparts except your party is real ppl instead of you controlling the entire group. Uh huh

Uncharted I have no idea what they have planned for the future because they are a sony company which has no vision. Insomniac is an independant company who brought sunset overdrive to XB1 because what they wanted to do with the game couldn't be done on PS4 (there words) and it has something to do with online/cloud/basically what we talking about.

And I did say 99%. So lets say its really 92% I'll lower it to 90% and feel comfortable with that number. 9 out of 10 games will be online focused.
I bet you couldn't even name 10 single player games this gen that you give a shyt about TODAY

I said they would give you an OPTION. Have two modes. What y'all are saying is they will be 99% online. How in the fukk Microsoft changing policy to NOT have to be online. Cause the uproar. To include gaming companies. And in the same breath you say, everyone wants all games online. Isn't that the same idea that was just shot down for the system?


And please don't insult me with 2k5 nikka. I got every sports game. They the only ones I actually buy. That and sandbox games. Every single one of them got an offline option. I'd say 90% have an online MODE. It is not the whole entire game. It is not a requirement. You just listed a bunch of games with an online OPTION. None are purely online. Hell COD even has single player


Again. Since you never answered my direct question. What important person has said what you just said? You the gaming following master. I bow to you. Show me your 99% 90% 75% figure in some sort of link please

 

[MeachTheMonster]

How do you know these features were going to be so great? you have a xbox1 ? They sound good to you but no idea they Would be implemented correctly ..

We will never find out now. Mufukkas talmbout getting their options taken away, they didn't realize that this would have been the first time we truly had some options. We would have had 3 distinctive choices in consoles. Now we got too boxes that are essentially the same.

Gamers and game journalists are stupid as hell, I really wish Microsoft wouldn't have backtracked on this.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Bruh, you are the epitome of ignorance right now. Let me break it down why, I'll go from where you ended to where you started.

1.) The ps4 being $100 cheaper is not even related so lets just ignore the fanboy comment that lessons the credibility of any point you was trying to make prior to

2.) Microsoft wouldn't of let it be known out the gate, thats what YOU say and you ran with it as fact. Then you contradict yourself by saying its the oldest trick/tool in the book. But you just said how microsoft WOULD HAVE DONE IT. So is it "they used the oldest trick" or they didn't use any trick because if they did... they would of done it the this way/that way"

See, your saying two things at once which means you haven't even settled on what you wanna say/think/etc.

3.) Prices would go down just like on PC. You have to be beyond retarded to say it wouldnt. You the same type of dude who 10yrs ago would say Music CD's aren't going anywhere. You'd of then said prices will NOT go down but they have. Now its free to $10 max for a CD. XBL offers games at severe discounts all the time. I bought Kung Fu High Impact the other day for $5, Fallout 3 for $5, and a bunch of other games for $5 via Direct download over XBL today. Games like Halo 4 was $40 on there about 2/3months after it hit stores. They lower the prices on there once they see sales go down to pick them back up. Thats the advantage of going digital besides all the money they save on disc/etc. Go head and all this like if I'm lying over here?

Look. More than likely you probably get validated as a person posting online, at least that's how you come off....Are maybe you're a teenager, its hard to tell.


I am no "fan boy" are whatever lil category you want to put me in to supplant your argument...

Never paid for a PS2 and never owned the PS3.....

I went from DreamCast to the O.G. Xbox to the 360......

If you would think instead of ramble and blindly support your argument, it's evident that MS never championed the reduction in prices for games at E3\conference because it was never gonna happen........that's why the lower price point was not used as a selling tool. I did not contradict myself whatsoever.....

Matter of fact, it makes no sense to drop the selling price of games, but that's another thread....

Your third point reeks of false assumptions and has nothing to do with the initial selling price of most games

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

We will never find out now. Mufukkas talmbout getting their options taken away, they didn't realize that this would have been the first time we truly had some options. We would have had 3 distinctive choices in consoles. Now we got too boxes that are essentially the same.

Gamers and game journalists are stupid as hell, I really wish Microsoft wouldn't have backtracked on this.

So Microsoft took away your options. Sony didnt tell them too. They didn't even have enough FAITH in their "future of the living room" system to give it 1 day on the market


And according to y'all. Not cause any truth. They shut it down based on lies. Not release a video showing the lies. Not release press pointing out lies. Not putting more money into marketing to get out the truth


No no. They fukking quit


Here's a better question. What would y'all say if Sony said, fukk this, we going to do it microsofts way


Y'all would be saying the same damn shyt. "Daaaamn they gave up without even trying. They knew Microsoft was the best way" but it's Sony so it's "oh it's all the worlds fault. Y'all made them quit on us"

I don't quit on god cause atheism is on the rise. I have faith. Guess they didn't believe the bs they was selling y'all. Cause I don't know how 10 game share, kinect being the greatest thing ever, cheap games and no discs could possibly lose in the long run. Obviously they didn't believe in it

 

[el_oh_el]

Folks that are on here whining about "gamers" and "journalists" that cause MS to backtrack...I GUARANTEE that MS aint paid NO mind to this site..so complaining to us aint gon change a damn thing...

This shyte is really all MS fault, or rather, MS PR department. They could have sold it to us in a better way.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Folks that are on here whining about "gamers" and "journalists" that cause MS to backtrack...I GUARANTEE that MS aint paid NO mind to this site..so complaining to us aint gon change a damn thing...

It was a combined clusterfukk of idiocy. People started complaining. Then they started pushing lies and mis-truths. Then the journalists picked up on the fact that they'd get more traffic by bashing M$. So everyday there was a new story about how Xbox was killing used games and taking people rights. Then the gaming community started believing their own shyt. And nobody gave it a chance to see how it would work. Microsoft bytched up and caved to the clusterfukk, but they should have just stuck to their guns and put it out

 

[ltheghost]

This just shows that Microsoft wasn't confident in their business strategy. What good is it to show of advances in the game world but NO one wants to your machine. Ending up like Tesla. Its not a good look. The thing that killed Microsoft was MESSAGING. There PR team was fukking horrible. Obamacare was more popular than the DRM issue for Microsoft.

 

[KingT33]

Let me ask you something. No here. It's really for any Xbox fan or whatever.

Do y'all honestly believe game companies would sell a game for 59.99 on a ps4 and 39.99 on an Xbox?

I ask cause you bring up pc's. well they have no competition. You sell a game for a computer and every computer plays it. You just worry about a Mac or pc version.

But consoles are different. I can't buy 1 game and play it on both. And if I'm a company and KNOW you will pay 59.99. And I also KNOW ps4 users are buying them at 59.99.....


Then what exactly am I getting by dropping the price for one system? Maybe it's me. But I have ZERO trust in that theory.

How to you think ESPN NFL2k5 got to be so popular besides it shytting on madden gameplay wise. It's when they released it at 19.99 that's when it really took off. That's when EA decided to be some haters and bought the exclusive rights from the NFL because they were scared. If you lower the price + make the game good then it should equal more sales from jump. You wont have people saying "nah im not copping that shyt right now cause its 60 dolla's" I know a couple of broke nikkas who say that shyt every time the new madden or 2K basketball comes out. If the makers of COD drop the price of their game and it sells a shyt ton then EA will have no choice but to drop the price of BF in order to keep up. Its just the laws of economics. People are going to go with the better deal. I know i would

 

[el_oh_el]

It was a combined clusterfukk of idiocy. People started complaining. Then they started pushing lies and mis-truths. Then the journalists picked up on the fact that they'd get more traffic by bashing M$. So everyday there was a new story about how Xbox was killing used games and taking people rights. Then the gaming community started believing their own shyt. And nobody gave it a chance to see how it would work. Microsoft bytched up and caved to the clusterfukk, but they should have just stuck to their guns and put it out

The problem is MS didnt do enough to SELL this idea. All PR fault. Some of the features do sound nice, but the way they held back information and certain spokespersons comment turned the thing into a clusterfukk.

I believe had they had all the policies out in the open from the beginning and offered the choice to opt in to the gamesharing (and by extension, the online checks) or opt out and just use the regular disc based sharing, it would have been a success.

 

[Animal House]

U can only blame M$ for not getting their policies out to the public in a way everyone would understand. Thats why u have misinformation being spread. It seems they should have hired some of u for PR

 

[stealthbomber]

copy and pasted from the other thread

im reading thru this thread and im like how are xbox fans not right now? some of yall dont see the bigger picture, microsoft didnt really change that much.

first they took away the feature forcing you to d/l games to your hd. if you want to d/l them off live just fukking do it and stfu. not to mention it will be cheaper than the physical cd. why would you buy a cd just to burn it when you can buy it on live anyway? you can d/l sports games or whatever that you'll keep for longer and just buy rpg/fps games and sell them back when your done. that seems completely logical to me.

second they took away the 24 hour check in. who gives a fukk? when u turn on your xbox its gonna be always connected, why have it connected when your not on, what does that change? the updates will happen in the background anyway and prolly be fast as fukk

them taking game sharing away does suck tho

in all honesty this is really making me think about switching though.. if they switch the to the ddr5 i might be on board... although i still dont like the kinect being forced on the system, i do like the cable box functionality

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The problem is MS didnt do enough to SELL this idea. All PR fault. Some of the features do sound nice, but the way they held back information and certain spokespersons comment turned the thing into a clusterfukk.

I believe had they had all the policies out in the open from the beginning and offered the choice to opt in to the gamesharing (and by extension, the online checks) or opt out and just use the regular disc based sharing, it would have been a success.

I agree. They totaly fukked up the PR. But that still doesn't change the fact that the game journalism industry is shytty and gamers big ass whining babies.

For years developers have been telling us that they can't sustain the industry anymore. As gamers we should be loyal to them, but instead we'll see a bunch more studios closing. We'll see less variety in games. We will see more bullshyt free to play and DLC. All so GameStop can stay alive. Stupid mufukkas

 

[Rico]

Microsoft's cloud computing 'vision' for Xbox One remains unchanged | Joystiq

 

[Swiggy]

Was it ever mentioned WHY Xbox can't have all them features, and still be able to made adjustments? It's like they took their L like children and said "fukk it, you want it to be one way, you can't have the new shyt, then". Why can't they make both happen?

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

How to you think ESPN NFL2k5 got to be so popular besides it shytting on madden gameplay wise. It's when they released it at 19.99 that's when it really took off. That's when EA decided to be some haters and bought the exclusive rights from the NFL because they were scared. If you lower the price + make the game good then it should equal more sales from jump. You wont have people saying "nah im not copping that shyt right now cause its 60 dolla's" I know a couple of broke nikkas who say that shyt every time the new madden or 2K basketball comes out. If the makers of COD drop the price of their game and it sells a shyt ton then EA will have no choice but to drop the price of BF in order to keep up. Its just the laws of economics. People are going to go with the better deal. I know i would

I don't have a dog in this console fight but NFL 2k5 was NEVER better than Madden, that's just malarkey. I owned both franchises right up until EA bought the rights and the ONLY thing 2k did better was in the presentation department. There is a reason Madden was blowing the doors off their ass in the sales department and it wasn't name recognition or anything like that. It was that 2k played like shyt.