god shamgod
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Clippers beat writer said the deal will be done very very soon
Might have to add butler and take back lee or terry
Might have to add butler and take back lee or terry
Woj: Celtics, Clippers deep in talks on blockbuster deal
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Oroko Saki
The Shredder
Depends on if he wants a championship. The Clippers will be better if they make this deal but they still aint no championship team
After KG and Blake they still have no depth at PF and C
Shameonyou
All Star
ill take my chances playing with champions than have him try to win one with players that never been there
blake wont be a clipp tho..
The Celtics and Clippers have relaunched discussions on a new trade framework that could bring a resolution to the complicated talks regarding coach Doc Rivers and star forward Kevin Garnett potentially going to Los Angeles in a multiplayer deal, according to sources close to the process.
With the Clippers adamant that prized young guard Eric Bledsoe will not be included in a trade for Garnett, sources told ESPN.com that one proposed tweak to end the weekend stalemate in the talks is the prospect of the Clippers taking back the contract of either Courtney Lee or Jason Terry from the Celtics.
Shedding the long-term money owed to either Lee or Terry, sources said, could persuade the Celtics to relent on their demand that Bledsoe be included in the trade. A deal could be completed later Monday or by Tuesday, sources said.
The proposed cross-country move of Rivers from the Celtics' bench to the Clippers' bench was in limbo all weekend because of the teams' ongoing haggling over Bledsoe. Sources told ESPN.com that the Celtics initially were adamant that they will not consent to allow Rivers out of the final three years and $21 million on his contract unless they receive both Bledsoe and Clippers center DeAndre Jordan in a corresponding trade for Garnett, along with at least one future first-round draft pick as compensation for Rivers.
Yet sources say that the Clippers have made it clear to Boston that they will not include Bledsoe in the proposed trade for Garnett, largely because they are determined to keep Chris Paul's backup to headline a separate down-the-road trade once they're certain that Paul has committed his long-term future to L.A.
If the Celtics ultimately consent to a trade without Bledsoe, their expected haul for Rivers and Garnett would be headlined by Jordan, that future first-round draft choice and the ability to shed the long-term salary due either Lee or Terry, both of whom are scheduled to earn nearly $11 million over the next two seasons. It's also possible, sources said, that the Celtics will try to extract another trade asset from the Clippers to replace Bledsoe.
The Clippers, meanwhile, believe that the deal will guarantee that Paul re-signs with the team when he becomes a free agent July 1. And if they can successfully acquire Garnett in tandem with Rivers as their replacement for coach Vinny Del Negro, sources briefed on L.A.'s thinking say that the club would then pursue Paul Pierce in an attempt to reunite all three Celtics mainstays at the Staples Center. The Clippers would also then still have Bledsoe in the latter scenario as a trade chip to pursue additional roster upgrades to ensure Paul's signature on a new contract.
If neither side budges soon, sources close to the situation expect the Clippers to change course by Tuesday or Wednesday and name either Lionel Hollins or Brian Shaw as their new coach, which would end L.A.'s complicated courtship of Rivers and force him to decide whether to return to the Celtics next season -- as Boston president of basketball operations Danny Ainge still hopes -- or leave the game to either return to broadcasting or simply recharge away from it.
Sources say Hollins has emerged as the Clippers' preferred choice if they don't land Rivers.
With the Clippers adamant that prized young guard Eric Bledsoe will not be included in a trade for Garnett, sources told ESPN.com that one proposed tweak to end the weekend stalemate in the talks is the prospect of the Clippers taking back the contract of either Courtney Lee or Jason Terry from the Celtics.
Shedding the long-term money owed to either Lee or Terry, sources said, could persuade the Celtics to relent on their demand that Bledsoe be included in the trade. A deal could be completed later Monday or by Tuesday, sources said.
The proposed cross-country move of Rivers from the Celtics' bench to the Clippers' bench was in limbo all weekend because of the teams' ongoing haggling over Bledsoe. Sources told ESPN.com that the Celtics initially were adamant that they will not consent to allow Rivers out of the final three years and $21 million on his contract unless they receive both Bledsoe and Clippers center DeAndre Jordan in a corresponding trade for Garnett, along with at least one future first-round draft pick as compensation for Rivers.
Yet sources say that the Clippers have made it clear to Boston that they will not include Bledsoe in the proposed trade for Garnett, largely because they are determined to keep Chris Paul's backup to headline a separate down-the-road trade once they're certain that Paul has committed his long-term future to L.A.
If the Celtics ultimately consent to a trade without Bledsoe, their expected haul for Rivers and Garnett would be headlined by Jordan, that future first-round draft choice and the ability to shed the long-term salary due either Lee or Terry, both of whom are scheduled to earn nearly $11 million over the next two seasons. It's also possible, sources said, that the Celtics will try to extract another trade asset from the Clippers to replace Bledsoe.
The Clippers, meanwhile, believe that the deal will guarantee that Paul re-signs with the team when he becomes a free agent July 1. And if they can successfully acquire Garnett in tandem with Rivers as their replacement for coach Vinny Del Negro, sources briefed on L.A.'s thinking say that the club would then pursue Paul Pierce in an attempt to reunite all three Celtics mainstays at the Staples Center. The Clippers would also then still have Bledsoe in the latter scenario as a trade chip to pursue additional roster upgrades to ensure Paul's signature on a new contract.
If neither side budges soon, sources close to the situation expect the Clippers to change course by Tuesday or Wednesday and name either Lionel Hollins or Brian Shaw as their new coach, which would end L.A.'s complicated courtship of Rivers and force him to decide whether to return to the Celtics next season -- as Boston president of basketball operations Danny Ainge still hopes -- or leave the game to either return to broadcasting or simply recharge away from it.
Sources say Hollins has emerged as the Clippers' preferred choice if they don't land Rivers.
I guess Screamin' A was in the right with this story for once.
by no means -im a fan of hisbut he was the 1st person who said
bron
bosh
& wade
are going to join up in MIA
Kang Deezy
Overall Nice Guy
This is so stupid.
Doc and possibly KG have forced Danny's hand into this garbage trade
Doc and possibly KG have forced Danny's hand into this garbage trade
LMAOOOOOOOOOO.. did they not how old KG and Pierce look now? good lord
Paul already has a team with better upside. Howard is garbage and is a fukking non factor in the 4th quarter of crucial games. Everyone can see he's not even better than Hibbert or Brooke Lopez. shyts just stupid
all this to keep CP3?? dude aint even the best PG in the West. Not even close. Parker and Westbrook kills this nygga head up constantly. Stepan Curry got next.. He's too injury prone. Really good player early on in N.O. but he's just a little above avg now
all this if they try to get Howard of course
Paul already has a team with better upside. Howard is garbage and is a fukking non factor in the 4th quarter of crucial games. Everyone can see he's not even better than Hibbert or Brooke Lopez. shyts just stupid
all this to keep CP3?? dude aint even the best PG in the West. Not even close. Parker and Westbrook kills this nygga head up constantly. Stepan Curry got next.. He's too injury prone. Really good player early on in N.O. but he's just a little above avg now
all this if they try to get Howard of course
fukk it, trade c00n for Blake & Bledsoe. I am beginning to wanting this trade to go down. But, just seeing KG & Howard on the same team together though? 
Lakers: Nash, Bledsoe, Kobe, Blake, & Pau
Clippers: CP3, ?, Pierce, KG, & Howard
fukk it, lets make this happen.
SwagKingKong
All Star
Damnnn, deal is getting done very soon brehs 
If Clippers manages to keep Bledsoe, and get Terry back.. Well, damn!
PG - Paul, Bledsoe
SG - Terry, Crawford
SF - Pierce, Barnes?
PF - Griffin,
Cc - Garnett,
Whatever you can get in that front court through free agency, it's a wrap brehs
If Clippers manages to keep Bledsoe, and get Terry back.. Well, damn!
PG - Paul, Bledsoe
SG - Terry, Crawford
SF - Pierce, Barnes?
PF - Griffin,
Cc - Garnett,
Whatever you can get in that front court through free agency, it's a wrap brehs
The Celtics are rebuilding. That's much is clear. What this does is make LAC is legit threat for D12. They can offer both CP3 and D12 the max with a SnT of Blake and they still have their MLE or and bi-annual.
The problem... This turns the Lakers into an average NBA team too good for a good lotto pick and not good enough for a good team. Also, Cleveland is a much better option for LBJ than Griffin as is Miami so they will be mediocre for years to come. What I am hoping is they say f**k no. Either resign or lost Dwight outright to Atlanta, Dallas, or Houston and be that with it. As for CP3, this trade is a clear upgrade from a talent and coaching standpoint for CP3. The issue is, are they good enough to win it all. Not a chance in hell. So they need to add more players mainly D12.
But like I said, this would be clearly the best option if they wanted to play together. D12 and CP3 over Atlanta. They would have more to offer and more money. Atlanta can offer shooters and Al Horford which would be a big 3. LAC can offer a lot of depth, a lot of good players and two half court specialist studs in D12 and CP3.
I still say it's
If it is just Dwight
1. LA 55% They offer the most and have a decent shot at doing well in the playoffs, not a great.
2. Houston 45% Overrated but they have a good shot of landing Howard by himself.
3. Atlanta/Dallas 5% Dwight doesn't seem to hot on coming home unless CP3 comes and Dallas just is too old as it is.
As for just CP3
1. LAC is now even stronger but this is about 97-99% LAC
2. Atlanta has the cap and Horford is an excellent fit. 1-3% ATL
3. Houston doesn't have the fit with Harden and Dallas is too old. 0%
For both players,
1. LAC (Can offer depth, max money, and LA) 40%, only because of LAL.
2. Atlanta (Big 3, can offer them near max money.) 40% because they don't have any barriers like LAC.
3. Dallas (Big 3, can't offer them a lot of money unless their squad has NBDL players around them) 20% because of Dirk's contract which is extremely huge.
The problem... This turns the Lakers into an average NBA team too good for a good lotto pick and not good enough for a good team. Also, Cleveland is a much better option for LBJ than Griffin as is Miami so they will be mediocre for years to come. What I am hoping is they say f**k no. Either resign or lost Dwight outright to Atlanta, Dallas, or Houston and be that with it. As for CP3, this trade is a clear upgrade from a talent and coaching standpoint for CP3. The issue is, are they good enough to win it all. Not a chance in hell. So they need to add more players mainly D12.
But like I said, this would be clearly the best option if they wanted to play together. D12 and CP3 over Atlanta. They would have more to offer and more money. Atlanta can offer shooters and Al Horford which would be a big 3. LAC can offer a lot of depth, a lot of good players and two half court specialist studs in D12 and CP3.
I still say it's
If it is just Dwight
1. LA 55% They offer the most and have a decent shot at doing well in the playoffs, not a great.
2. Houston 45% Overrated but they have a good shot of landing Howard by himself.
3. Atlanta/Dallas 5% Dwight doesn't seem to hot on coming home unless CP3 comes and Dallas just is too old as it is.
As for just CP3
1. LAC is now even stronger but this is about 97-99% LAC
2. Atlanta has the cap and Horford is an excellent fit. 1-3% ATL
3. Houston doesn't have the fit with Harden and Dallas is too old. 0%
For both players,
1. LAC (Can offer depth, max money, and LA) 40%, only because of LAL.
2. Atlanta (Big 3, can offer them near max money.) 40% because they don't have any barriers like LAC.
3. Dallas (Big 3, can't offer them a lot of money unless their squad has NBDL players around them) 20% because of Dirk's contract which is extremely huge.
