Women are dream killers agree?
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I agree that you need to accomplish your personal goals before you settle down, because once you get into a serious relationship, your focus needs to change.
If you're only concerned about your own personal goals while in a relationship, this is considered selfish and I guarantee your relationship won't last.
For men, it's always better for us to accomplish our individual goals before we settle down.
When you get with a woman, that's when you start having group/family goals.
For the person who used Michelle Obama as an example. Barack running for president was not an individual goal. It was a goal set and agreed upon them while married, because if Michelle didn't agree with Barack running for president, he wouldn't have ran, ask Colin Powell.
If you're in a relationship or married with kids, you just can't get up and say "I'm tired of working in corporate America, I want to pursue my passion as an artist." These decisions are by committee and this is what Reincar is getting at.
If your dreams are not in align with the dreams and goals of your wife/family, etc. it's unlikely that they will come to fruition and your relationship remains intact. It's usually either or.
If you're only concerned about your own personal goals while in a relationship, this is considered selfish and I guarantee your relationship won't last.
For men, it's always better for us to accomplish our individual goals before we settle down.
When you get with a woman, that's when you start having group/family goals.
For the person who used Michelle Obama as an example. Barack running for president was not an individual goal. It was a goal set and agreed upon them while married, because if Michelle didn't agree with Barack running for president, he wouldn't have ran, ask Colin Powell.
If you're in a relationship or married with kids, you just can't get up and say "I'm tired of working in corporate America, I want to pursue my passion as an artist." These decisions are by committee and this is what Reincar is getting at.
If your dreams are not in align with the dreams and goals of your wife/family, etc. it's unlikely that they will come to fruition and your relationship remains intact. It's usually either or.
no but i think we live in a society that enables women to be irresponsible to the point where the statistical odds of you finding what most call a good woman are very slim. when you don't have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility and consequences of your actions alone it fosters you do become dependent and see yourself as a victim of others.
most men are indoctrinated to see women as victims in any circumstance even one where her complete negligence is the only thing she's a victim of and if a man is involved in the situation and it goes bad she's the victim and he's the cause or blame.
you don't see Dateline NBC doing specials on female pedophiles do you? you see them setting up men and making them to be villains. when a 15 year old boy fukks his female teacher he's lucky and nobody really says shyt about her. when a 40 year old male teacher fukks a 15 year old female student well that's a whole different ball game.
disagree.... my when my brother left the corporate world it was his decision, and he told his wife after he had quit...
my dad retired in his late 40s , he didnt discuss it with my mom...
maybe its because my family is African and in our culture the man is head of the household and is respected as such..
I couldnt imagine having to ask my wifes permission to leave a job.....bizarre
So did Cindy McCain help destroy John's chances of being president? if Michelle gets Credit for Barack's success does Cindy not deserve credit for John's failure?
this is what i mean by indoctrination. men are programmed to only view women in a mostly positive light. when things go well and a woman is involved she helped (maybe she did maybe she didn't maybe the same thing would have happened regardless of her presence) when things go bad and a woman is there in an equivalent role mostly nothing is said of her involvement.
i'm pretty sure Michelle played a role in Barack becoming president but to say his chances are doubtful without her? wild statement that can't be proven and it almost implies she deserved the credit for him becoming president. how many people you see saying if John didn't marry Cindy he's probably be president?
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they don't have to be. contrary your beliefs, not every woman is trying to start a family and tie you down financially and emotionally. nor are they trying to take your money and material from you, get married to you, cheat on you and then divorce. some women have dreams and desires that stem past the typical expectations a male dominated and centered society push on them. and what's more important, they want to achieve it for themselves and not rely on a man to fulfill their needs. some women just want to have companionship with someone they can relate to and with very well, someone they're attracted to sexually, and someone who is out to be an independent person as well.
i've met a few women like that, the ones that aren't trying to get tied down until they achieve their own personal goals before they concern themselves with being with someone. i'm not saying they're everywhere, but if you haven't ran into them by now, that's your problem. and, more than likely, it exposes a little bit about how you carry yourself and what you expect from a woman. i don't think you'd be complaining if you had different expectations from a woman...
i've met a few women like that, the ones that aren't trying to get tied down until they achieve their own personal goals before they concern themselves with being with someone. i'm not saying they're everywhere, but if you haven't ran into them by now, that's your problem. and, more than likely, it exposes a little bit about how you carry yourself and what you expect from a woman. i don't think you'd be complaining if you had different expectations from a woman...
It may be a culture thing, and I wouldn't dare extrapolate it to all of society.
Women have more power and say so in today's American marriages because they can divorce and be compensated for it.
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Pretty much, all of this.they don't have to be. contrary your beliefs, not every woman is trying to start a family and tie you down financially and emotionally. nor are they trying to take your money and material from you, get married to you, cheat on you and then divorce. some women have dreams and desires that stem past the typical expectations a male dominated and centered society push on them. and what's more important, they want to achieve it for themselves and not rely on a man to fulfill their needs. some women just want to have companionship with someone they can relate to and with very well, someone they're attracted to sexually, and someone who is out to be an independent person as well.
i've met a few women like that, the ones that aren't trying to get tied down until they achieve their own personal goals before they concern themselves with being with someone. i'm not saying they're everywhere, but if you haven't ran into them by now, that's your problem. and, more than likely, it exposes a little bit about how you carry yourself and what you expect from a woman. i don't think you'd be complaining if you had different expectations from a woman...
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I would not give them the title of dream killer. But, I witnessed this first hand. My stepdad tried starting a business from the ground up. My mother nagged him, started arguments with him, and made him miserable until he caved and went back to his normal job. Screw that!
How many unmarried men have been elected president? If Michelle was not supportive of Obama's goals, would he be president? Cindy Mcain supported her husbands goals and they failed as a team. Doesn't mean it was her fault, they just came up short as allot of people do. Fact is Mcain would have been worse of if he was single or married to an unsuportive woman.
they don't have to be. contrary your beliefs, not every woman is trying to start a family and tie you down financially and emotionally. nor are they trying to take your money and material from you, get married to you, cheat on you and then divorce. some women have dreams and desires that stem past the typical expectations a male dominated and centered society push on them. and what's more important, they want to achieve it for themselves and not rely on a man to fulfill their needs. some women just want to have companionship with someone they can relate to and with very well, someone they're attracted to sexually, and someone who is out to be an independent person as well.
i've met a few women like that, the ones that aren't trying to get tied down until they achieve their own personal goals before they concern themselves with being with someone. i'm not saying they're everywhere, but if you haven't ran into them by now, that's your problem. and, more than likely, it exposes a little bit about how you carry yourself and what you expect from a woman. i don't think you'd be complaining if you had different expectations from a woman...
I agree, women are the same way. Most of them want to accomplish their personal goals as well before they decide to settle down.
This is why we are in the era of the career woman who decides to have kids in her mid 30s after she finishes law or business school and is prominent in her career. She would never think of having kids while doing all of this, and if a man would try to sabotage her, unless he was her "soulmate", she'd probably kick him to the curb.
Hell yes.....100% completely true.
there's been a couple one of which went immediately on the hunt for a wife after being elected to use as a political tool to deflect a scandal.
Colin Powell couldn't run for president cuz hos wife didn't want the spotlight.
Obama would have been a successful lawyer who entered politics with or without Michelle obama
Go tell your wife right now that your quitting your 60k a year job and we are long acl with my parents as I go back to school to do wha I really love.
she gonna be happy and stay? Or is she going to pop that bottle and say no nikka
This is not even a bash women thread it's an accomplish all your goals before you settle down with a chick.
Because you settled down with one your dreams and aspirations will be killed
Obama would have been a successful lawyer who entered politics with or without Michelle obama
Go tell your wife right now that your quitting your 60k a year job and we are long acl with my parents as I go back to school to do wha I really love.
she gonna be happy and stay? Or is she going to pop that bottle and say no nikkaThis is not even a bash women thread it's an accomplish all your goals before you settle down with a chick.
Because you settled down with one your dreams and aspirations will be killed