would justin timberlake be who he is...

[Here Comes the Pain]

JT himself doesn't doubt this I am sure.

White or black his music is good though right?

Yeah. Justified is one of my favorite albums. I don't hate jt, but I just thinks he's overrated and he gets too much credit for things that he isn't.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Yeah. Justified is one of my favorite albums. I don't hate jt, but I just thinks he's overrated and he gets too much credit for things that he isn't.

Could have a point there but Usher also has had a great career and is rarely disrespected in the media...in fact dude is very well loved in the entertainment industry.

I think Usher needs a big album to remind people how good he actually is..he has had some duds recently.

 

[satam55]

He didn't dump Pharrell. The Neptunes chose not to work with JT because of a label dispute between Jive and Clipse. There was no bad blood between them. The Neptunes were being loyal to their friends by not producing and making the label who's jiving (pun intended) them money. JT had no quarrels because he still had Timbaland and did well.

I never knew this.

 

[satam55]

Throw your own idol under the bus to save yourself brehs

Community Post: 20 Facts About Justin Timberlake And Janet Jackson's Prior History

Never knew Justin was such a HUGE Janet Jackson fan.

 

[ridedolo]

Is he, he produces some of the best music of 90's acts, take out Maxwell and D'angelo and the legends like Sadiq Babyface Kells, who else was producing much better music, Joe? Ginuwine? Not by a huge margin.

Idk bout the producing, but better singers from the 90s off top

Joe
112
Carl Thomas
Black street
Boys 2 men
Jodeci

 

[Budda]

Idk bout the producing, but better singers from the 90s off top

Joe
112
Carl Thomas
Black street
Boys 2 men
Jodeci

Ok so you named 4 of the best groups of the 90's.

And 2 solo acts, 1 in which i already mentioned, and the other laughable to suggest his catalogue has been as good as Jon, or he is even one of the prominent artists from that era.

 

[JustCKing]

Chris Brown isn't a hybrid. He came on to the scene as a singer who can dance. It's just now over the past few years that he's starting to rap. Bryson tiller came on to the scene rapping/singing. He's known as a hybrid while Chris isn't.

The difference between Chris and jt is that Chris can make it work with different producers whereas jt has never proven that he could because he works with the same producers.

Outside of dancing, they're about even as singers and performers.

How is this even relevant? Working with different producers is a gift and curse. On one hand, it can expand your sound and help to be versatile. On the other, you have an album that's all over the place with no direction. There's a reason why Chris Brown works with different producers and much of that has to do with whose writing for him. If you're working with different writers, the producer that the writer wrote the song with is often the producer who produced the demo. So naturally, Chris Brown is working with different producers because he has different writers.

 

[ridedolo]

How is this even relevant? Working with different producers is a gift and curse. On one hand, it can expand your sound and help to be versatile. On the other, you have an album that's all over the place with no direction. There's a reason why Chris Brown works with different producers and much of that has to do with whose writing for him. If you're working with different writers, the producer that the writer wrote the song with is often the producer who produced the demo. So naturally, Chris Brown is working with different producers because he has different writers.

what's your point though. the fact is that chris brown can work with different producers/writers and still execute great performances and music. unlike ya boy JT who needed hand holding from the same 2 producers his entire solo career. if you can't see the difference you're being obtuse. take the cape off.

 

[Chris Cool]

so we just ignoring the fact that outside of the first solo jt coproduced all his shyt?

 

[JustCKing]

what's your point though. the fact is that chris brown can work with different producers/writers and still execute great performances and music. unlike ya boy JT who needed hand holding from the same 2 producers his entire solo career. if you can't see the difference you're being obtuse. take the cape off.

There's a lot of artists who work with the same producers. Working with different producers is irrelevant. It's about the end result. That's the point. JT's done more with two producers than Chris has managed to do by with an army of producers who by far are more trendy and safe.

Take off what cape exactly? If I'm not mistaken, you made a JT thread and conveniently threw Chris Brown into the mix. You went above and beyond to mention Chris Brown.

 

[ridedolo]

There's a lot of artists who work with the same producers. Working with different producers is irrelevant. It's about the end result. That's the point. JT's done more with two producers than Chris has managed to do by with an army of producers who by far are more trendy and safe.

Take off what cape exactly? If I'm not mistaken, you made a JT thread and conveniently threw Chris Brown into the mix. You went above and beyond to mention Chris Brown.

just stop. cb is a better artist than jt, period. no amount of rationalization or caping is going to change that. jt had to work with the same few producers, or he would be exposed as the talentless culture vulture that he is.

 

[JustCKing]

just stop. cb is a better artist than jt, period. no amount of rationalization or caping is going to change that. jt had to work with the same few producers, or he would be exposed as the talentless culture vulture that he is.

If you feel (which it doesn't seem you don't) Chris Brown is better, then what does it matter how many producers he worked with. Did you make this thread to validate your opinion of why Chris Brown is better than JT because it seems like you did? You posed a question in which most people answered "no, JT wouldn't be who he is". You could apply the same logic to Chris Brown. Without the many producers he's worked with, he wouldn't be where he is either.

 

[ridedolo]

If you feel (which it doesn't seem you don't) Chris Brown is better, then what does it matter how many producers he worked with. Did you make this thread to validate your opinion of why Chris Brown is better than JT because it seems like you did? You posed a question in which most people answered "no, JT wouldn't be who he is". You could apply the same logic to Chris Brown. Without the many producers he's worked with, he wouldn't be where he is either.

you're clearly not intelligent enough for me to continue to entertain this. have a good friday sir.

 

[flo]

Never knew Justin was such a HUGE Janet Jackson fan.

A Straight up stan. Which made the Super Bowl fiasco even more messed up.
The plan after the backlash was to basically disassociate with her publicly, but behind the scenes be like "it was nothing personal, we're still friends right?"

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Could have a point there but Usher also has had a great career and is rarely disrespected in the media...in fact dude is very well loved in the entertainment industry.

I think Usher needs a big album to remind people how good he actually is..he has had some duds recently.

I think this is song is going to be on the album. Not sure if anybody's heard of it.