she wouldnt even see h.e.r.
Would we have wack ass Beyonce if Aaliyah didnt die?
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This. Same way people overrated Mya's beauty. Yeah she's nice but people treat her like she's out of this world fine.
I agree. Let’s face it damn near every black female artist fell off going into the late 2000’s except Beyoncé and Alicia Keys. Then Rihanna came through and crushed the buildings and it’s just her and Beyoncé really with a few names that pop up here and there.
I may have responded to this thread already. Anyway, my take is this:
1) Beyonce was going to be Beyonce even when Aaliyah was alive. Beyonce just wasn't solo yet, but I don't see how Aaliyah being alive changes Beyonce's trajectory. Doesn't make sense
2) This whole notion that Aaliyah wasn't talented or couldn't sing needs to stop. Yes, she had dope writers and producers, but even artists greater than Aaliyah benefited from dope writers and producers. There's artists that flopped or were nowhere near successful using the same writers and producers as Aaliyah. Changing Faces had entire albums helmed by R. Kelly and still weren't as successful as Aaliyah. Timbaland and Missy helmed albums from other artists that weren't as successful as Aaliyah.
1) Beyonce was going to be Beyonce even when Aaliyah was alive. Beyonce just wasn't solo yet, but I don't see how Aaliyah being alive changes Beyonce's trajectory. Doesn't make sense
2) This whole notion that Aaliyah wasn't talented or couldn't sing needs to stop. Yes, she had dope writers and producers, but even artists greater than Aaliyah benefited from dope writers and producers. There's artists that flopped or were nowhere near successful using the same writers and producers as Aaliyah. Changing Faces had entire albums helmed by R. Kelly and still weren't as successful as Aaliyah. Timbaland and Missy helmed albums from other artists that weren't as successful as Aaliyah.
Any Coli nikka would sound good over prime Timbaland/ R.Kelly production.
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Not sure how anyone can watch Beyonce sell tens of millions of records and gross nearly a billion dollars on tour...and say she's only on top because someone died. Weirdo shyt.
It’s funny you mentioned Alicia cause she was a superstar who was right there with beyonce sales and hit wise but then fell off a cliff
That first album was like a phenomenon
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Beyonce would've still done her thing in addition to Aaliyah still knocking out hits.
I think a heavy factor additionally is what if Brandy had not had that accident.
She had so much more potential to share with the world as a full-on well-rounded artist. I mean that basically derailed her late 20's to early 30's.
I think a heavy factor additionally is what if Brandy had not had that accident.
She had so much more potential to share with the world as a full-on well-rounded artist. I mean that basically derailed her late 20's to early 30's.
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TrapHouse Rock
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Beyonce's wack ass debut first single completely flopped "Work It Out" summer 2002
She had to push her first album back a whole year while Ashanti(Commercially) and Amerie(Creatively) ran 2002 R&B
Aaliyah was already gone and she was still struggling until she jacked Amerie's producer/sound and put out "Crazy In Love"
got with Jay(Aaliyah old bf) and came out with a remade 2pac song "03 Boniie & Clyde"
like Ashanti/Nas/Murda INC already did a year before ("The Pledge")
Aaliyah was gonna star the Matrix sequels her next album would have done dumb numbers she would have been ruling
She had to push her first album back a whole year while Ashanti(Commercially) and Amerie(Creatively) ran 2002 R&B
Aaliyah was already gone and she was still struggling until she jacked Amerie's producer/sound and put out "Crazy In Love"
got with Jay(Aaliyah old bf) and came out with a remade 2pac song "03 Boniie & Clyde"
like Ashanti/Nas/Murda INC already did a year before ("The Pledge")
Aaliyah was gonna star the Matrix sequels her next album would have done dumb numbers she would have been ruling
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Tommy Gibbs
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Beyonce was already platinum with Destiny's Child when Aalyah was alive
Any Coli nikka would sound good over prime Timbaland/ R.Kelly production.
No they wouldn't. I don't know a Coli artist on here who even sings. And that wasn't my point. It wouldn't guarantee success. Tell me why Changing Faces wasn't as successful as Aaliyah? Sparkle?
Nicole Wray had "Make It Hot", huge song. Whole album written and produced by Missy and while " Make It Hot" was the sole Timbo track, the single went gold, but her album didn't.
Aaliyah had songs that were hits that had nothing to do with R. Kelly, Missy, or Timbaland. Aaliyah is a huge catalyst in Missy and Timbaland's success. "If Your Girl Only Knew" was the biggest song either of them had written or produced up to that point.
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