Would you kill the world to save yourself ?

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Even if what they want is killing them and or people around them ? Should we just legalize all drugs ? Should corporations be allowed to sell poison to the people ? Should I be able to sell you a supersized diet coke and a Big mac , even though I KNOW it will eventually lead to heart disease , diabetes , and possibly death ?

everything in moderation. Drugs will kill you but thats only if you OD or do them for years, fast food can only kill you if its the only thing you eat and you are not active.

So many people don't understand that MODERATION is the key, there's not much inherently wrong with eating fatty foods, just as long as you are having a balance of other shyt and working it ALL off.

Mindless people will only want what is most palatable to the 5 senses. What sounds, looks, feels, tastes and smells good. Its why music is so vague, most people don't get art, do drugs or drink and eat nutritionally terrible food...it all feels good.

Notice that "thinking" is not a sense..
 

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Having a conscience is the exact reason I could never be super rich. I ain't talking a few million cuz u can pull that without compromising your integrity but when you got Billions or half a billion like Jay-Z, Bill Gates, Mitt Romney, Mark Zuckerberg you've got to do real devious shyt to get and maintain that level of wealth.

I mean Zuckerberg & Gates literally stole the idea that got them paid and found a way to cut out the original creators of their product. Romney's company would buy other companies to drain them dry and put thousands out of work purposely. In order to make that level of money you would have to be fueled by greed cuz their is no other reason to burn that many bridges. Like Patrice O'neal said "In order to be that level of wealthy you've got be one of those motherfukkers that jacks off every time you see a natural disaster."

meh, there are alot of the super rich who made their money without doing devious shyt. The google guys? the twitter cats, etc.
 

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I don't know if I could directly sell or do something that would harm others to them. But I'd promote things whether or not I believed in them. No one is making the general public go out and purchase it to make me rich.
 

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Yeah , in a negative way. I thought when you said you should be able to live the way you want with little to no regard for those around you , you meant you should be able to bring harm to others. And why dont you believe in Karma ?

It's dealing with people that only get in your path and dealing with them accordingly.

And I feel from a personal standpoint karma doesn't exist. The karma as in, what comes around goes around type deal. I've seen plenty of people get away with grimy shyt and come up on top with no consequences.
 

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Thread sets a good premise, but at what point do people come responsible for themselves?

Being "bad" is just as wrong as being willfully ignorant/stubborn at a lot of points, IMO.

42 Principles of Ma'at:

11. I have not closed my ears to truth
16. I am not deceitful
22. I have not polluted myself
32. I have not worked evil

Both acts are equally bad in many situations. We all, individually, are responsible for cherishing our own selves, physically, mentally, and emotionally first and foremost. When we take care of that problem, none of that other BS will fly anyway.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
I never understood how a person could encourage or engage in an activity they themselves found morally objectionable. How can our Arab/Muslim "brothas" sell alcohol and pork to another man , while privately believing these dietary practices lead to hell. Could you sell reverse mortgages to poor under-educated elderly folk ? Could you work as an admissions rep at a for-profit college , even if you personally felt these type of schools are misleading and predatory ?

Whats your stance on this issue ?.. Could you work in a field , or provide a service to someone , even if you felt it would lead to their eventual demise ?


I have a conscience, so no I could never do that. I'm not driven by greed and don't understand how people can live with themselves with predatory practices like the ones you outlined. Our country is basically in it's death spiral right now because of greed, and people taking advantage of one another at every turn without ever thinking of the consequences only how it affects themselves.
 

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Thread sets a good premise, but at what point do people come responsible for themselves?

Being "bad" is just as wrong as being willfully ignorant/stubborn at a lot of points, IMO.

42 Principles of Ma'at:

11. I have not closed my ears to truth
16. I am not deceitful
22. I have not polluted myself
32. I have not worked evil

Both acts are equally bad in many situations. We all, individually, are responsible for cherishing our own selves, physically, mentally, and emotionally first and foremost. When we take care of that problem, none of that other BS will fly anyway.

But how would we distinguish willful ignorance from plain ole ignorance ? The thread is about more than just personal responsibility.. I understand people make their own choices , but would you lead them down a path you know is wrong for personal gain ? Or would you provide them with the tools ?

It's dealing with people that only get in your path and dealing with them accordingly.

And I feel from a personal standpoint karma doesn't exist. The karma as in, what comes around goes around type deal. I've seen plenty of people get away with grimy shyt and come up on top with no consequences.

Its around us everyday. Look at Lance Armstrong , Sammy Sosa, Roger Clemons , Bernie Madoff.. People are paying the price everyday for things they thought would never come to light. I think negative energy eventually consumes us.

I don't know if I could directly sell or do something that would harm others to them. But I'd promote things whether or not I believed in them. No one is making the general public go out and purchase it to make me rich.

everything in moderation. Drugs will kill you but thats only if you OD or do them for years, fast food can only kill you if its the only thing you eat and you are not active.

So many people don't understand that MODERATION is the key, there's not much inherently wrong with eating fatty foods, just as long as you are having a balance of other shyt and working it ALL off.

Mindless people will only want what is most palatable to the 5 senses. What sounds, looks, feels, tastes and smells good. Its why music is so vague, most people don't get art, do drugs or drink and eat nutritionally terrible food...it all feels good.

Notice that "thinking" is not a sense..

At what point do we try and protect and educate the "mindless".. Heres another question. Would you participate in an activity or lifestyle you would not want for your kids or loved ones. I hear people talk all the time about how lost strippers are , and how they wouldn't want their daughters to become one , but they still go to strip clubs. I was one of them btw. @Klarifye&Grifter
 

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But how would we distinguish willful ignorance from plain ole ignorance ? The thread is about more than just personal responsibility.. I understand people make their own choices , but would you lead them down a path you know is wrong for personal gain ? Or would you provide them with the tools ?

I'd provide them with tools, but a man only needs to be equipped once. If she/he chooses another path that's on him. Coddling people doesn't help them either, just makes them dependent.

I'm not gonna insult the intelligence of people and say they don't know "right" from "wrong" though. "Mercy" is only reserved for children and the mentally "retarded", and even such wears thin for children.
 

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At what point do we try and protect and educate the "mindless".. Heres another question. Would you participate in an activity or lifestyle you would not want for your kids or loved ones. I hear people talk all the time about how lost strippers are , and how they wouldn't want their daughters to become one , but they still go to strip clubs. I was one of them btw. @Klarifye&Grifter

I'd teach my kids what I consider to be right and wrong and try to instill those values upon them. But once they're 18 they have to face the consequences themselves.
 
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