Would you like to learn a little about Africa? Diaspora facts? Free ez online curriculums inside

[Tommy Knocks]

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/index.php

you can click either teacher or student. at the top, they have map of curriculums, and then, cirriculum activities and so on and so on.

they provide links for further studying and research (for those that want to go more in depth.)

This isn't the most complex or in depth, it's not college level, but some may not even know the basics and could use a great outline, direction and cirriculums to learn a few things and spark some interest. Even I'm currently going through it, refreshing my memory. I've got another tab open for the links in case something interests me and I want to go more in depth, maybe pull up encyclopedias, or wiki of names that might draw my attention.

For example I'm currently studying what happened to the first wave of africans brought to Portugal BEFORE the slave trade, but AFTER Vasco da Gama discovered west africa, a good 150 years to be exact. During a time when west africans were living in Portugal and were embedded into their society, unheard of during that time, people from France to Holland were visiting Portugal only to be shocked at Portugal having become a center for west africans and the new hybrids (1 out of 10), 10% of their population black/mulatto , neither of whom were moors. It was much like AAs in america today. After 150 years, they disappeared, bred out or left to new colonies to seek native wives, Portugal now occupying India and Brazil, the short history of the Black Portuguese lost to history.


Eat brothas, eat, learn about your history, learn about your people.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

If it wasn't on its last week I'd recommend this American Slavery class from coursera the lectures have been just levels of information.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

If it wasn't on its last week I'd recommend this American Slavery class from coursera the lectures have been just levels of information.

I've been more interested in south american and european as of late. I know a lot about ours, but I never really focused on what happened to all the other people, like those that got shipped to colombia, argentina (they were sent into war and massacred into extinction), Peru, Mexico, Suriname, Spain, or Brazil. I used to think that America's blacks were the most bad ass, and altho we have accomplished a lot, most of it has to do with our economic status as a country more than anything. Basically if this were a third world country things would have been worse. We always ask...why didnt the south american blacks wake up? well...it turns out they did in a lot of ways. In brazil, they had towns exclusively for themselves, and defended them with honor.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I've been more interested in south american and european as of late. I know a lot about ours, but I never really focused on what happened to all the other people, like those that got shipped to colombia, argentina (they were sent into war and massacred into extinction), Peru, Mexico, Suriname, Spain, or Brazil. I used to think that America's blacks were the most bad ass, and altho we have accomplished a lot, most of it has to do with our economic status as a country more than anything. Basically if this were a third world country things would have been worse. We always ask...why didnt the south american blacks wake up? well...it turns out they did in a lot of ways. In brazil, they had towns exclusively for themselves, and defended them with honor.

You got an account with coursera? If so then here go the video lectures, that's all I use the site for I just take notes and listen to the shyt. https://class.coursera.org/slavesouth-001/lecture

I'm like you though, the diaspora and the continent itself is like a big ass puzzle spanning the globe. Each group has its own story and its own ways to deal with the issues of their day. It's some real good books on the subject regarding Blacks in South America and the Caribbean. I'm guessing the fate of the European Africans was no different than the Moors, they were either forced out, assimilated, or sent off to be slaves in the new colonies. The more you learn about the happenings between the 15th and 17th century the more fukked up the Americas seem. These fools literally did some real genocide shyt and no one talks about it, got us calling the real natives of this land after a country thousands of miles away. fukk Cristobal Colombo, he ain't discover shyt.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

You got an account with coursera? If so then here go the video lectures, that's all I use the site for I just take notes and listen to the shyt. https://class.coursera.org/slavesouth-001/lecture

I'm like you though, the diaspora and the continent itself is like a big ass puzzle spanning the globe. Each group has its own story and its own ways to deal with the issues of their day. It's some real good books on the subject regarding Blacks in South America and the Caribbean. I'm guessing the fate of the European Africans was no different than the Moors, they were either forced out, assimilated, or sent off to be slaves in the new colonies. The more you learn about the happenings between the 15th and 17th century the more fukked up the Americas seem. These fools literally did some real genocide shyt and no one talks about it, got us calling the real natives of this land after a country thousands of miles away. fukk Cristobal Colombo, he ain't discover shyt.

Nah playa, what is that website? nikka I'm old, I aint been in college in 10 yrs.

Yea man, I always thought it was us that were writing books and poems, but apparently blacks in portugal had been doing shyt like that 100 years prior. We always assume blacks were slaves in europe, but then its like we forget moors...they had many blacks in the ranks that had top and noble positions, after the moors were pushed out, many blacks remained. That link above talks about the different approaches the different colonial powers went about their colonies. Some were much more cruel than others (brits and spanish the worst), the dutch and portuguese (the first to discover new lands) started off harsh due to fear the first cpl decades but then became familiar, humane, even infatuated with blacks and asians,. they were starting to get comfortable and breeding like rabbits with one another. All up until they were invaded by neighbors and attitudes changed because the new occupants werent 'used' to blacks and so they had color castes implemented again. Think of it like being invaded by Russia tomorrow and how it would set our efforts back 100 yrs due to Russians being unfamiliar, xenophobic and racist.

Did you know many of the first bulk of black slaves in america were free? like the ones the dutch brought to build NY. They owned land, never had any issues and prospered. Many were equal and their were no journal logs of racism for a few years, lots of intermarriages, kinda like the dutch in south africa, who eventually started intermarrying once things started getting rougher and the population dwindled. Again, once the colonial powers started fighting, Brits moved in, tensions and greed kicked in, new white immigrants and their xenophobia due to being unfamiliar hit reset button and systematic slavery began yet again. Its crazy because its like history repeats itself. same shyt happened in brazil in the mid 1800s. The popuation started being coo, then blam, govt decides to import europeans from abroad, tensions rise.

I know Colombus didn't discover america per say, but he did discover it for them. I think that was the point.

 

[Im Kemet Rocky & I like penis]

i suggest taking actual African history courses in college or even high schools now have electives..

also is this source that has the history of africa; is it presented by a cac?..

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Nah playa, what is that website? nikka I'm old, I aint been in college in 10 yrs.

Yea man, I always thought it was us that were writing books and poems, but apparently blacks in portugal had been doing shyt like that 100 years prior. We always assume blacks were slaves in europe, but then its like we forget moors...they had many blacks in the ranks that had top and noble positions, after the moors were pushed out, many blacks remained. That link above talks about the different approaches the different colonial powers went about their colonies. Some were much more cruel than others (brits and spanish the worst), the dutch and portuguese (the first to discover new lands) started off harsh due to fear the first cpl decades but then became familiar, humane, even infatuated with blacks and asians,. they were starting to get comfortable and breeding like rabbits with one another. All up until they were invaded by neighbors and attitudes changed because the new occupants werent 'used' to blacks and so they had color castes implemented again. Think of it like being invaded by Russia tomorrow and how it would set our efforts back 100 yrs due to Russians being unfamiliar, xenophobic and racist.

Did you know many of the first bulk of black slaves in america were free? like the ones the dutch brought to build NY. They owned land, never had any issues and prospered. Many were equal and their were no journal logs of racism for a few years, lots of intermarriages, kinda like the dutch in south africa, who eventually started intermarrying once things started getting rougher and the population dwindled. Again, once the colonial powers started fighting, Brits moved in, tensions and greed kicked in, new white immigrants and their xenophobia due to being unfamiliar hit reset button and systematic slavery began yet again. Its crazy because its like history repeats itself. same shyt happened in brazil in the mid 1800s. The popuation started being coo, then blam, govt decides to import europeans from abroad, tensions rise.

I know Colombus didn't discover america per say, but he did discover it for them. I think that was the point.

It's a website with free courses from major universities. They're uncredited but you still get the same level of education.

I've been learning about the American side of the colonial story not so much how Africans adjusted in Europe after the end of Moorish influence. The Dutch didn't get into the game until about the 17th century it was Spain and Portugal that were the first ones discovering new lands after 2 centuries they had everyone else thirsty to get in the game. All the other Europeans were jealous that the Iberian kingdoms were able to discover new sources of gold in the Americas as well as sow up the gold market along the African coast. In fact, part of the reason why South America is predominantly Spanish is because of an agreement between Spain, Portugal, and the Pope which gave Spain a free hand in the rest of the continent while Portugal held sway in Brazil and the African coast.

Slavery started in America as a need for a new colonial model in what was considered the periphery of the so called "New World" so American slavery was a gradual development. Africans were no different from Europeans in that they were indentured servants and eventually earned their own land and became free people. The number of actual slaves was relatively small compared to the Caribbean and Brazil for example. It was really Stono's Rebellion that turned the tide in American history. It was from that that slavery on the basis of race was written, it started with small laws in the late 17th and early 18th century and before long they created a slave state. When you see how the process went about, what triggered the fears of the planter class, and how much of the racist slave society was written into the Constitution you see parallels which translate even to this day.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

It's a website with free courses from major universities. They're uncredited but you still get the same level of education.

I've been learning about the American side of the colonial story not so much how Africans adjusted in Europe after the end of Moorish influence. The Dutch didn't get into the game until about the 17th century it was Spain and Portugal that were the first ones discovering new lands. All the other Europeans were jealous that the Iberian kingdoms were able to discover new sources of gold in the Americas as well as sow up the gold market along the African coast. In fact, part of the reason why South America is predominantly Spanish is because of an agreement between Spain, Portugal, and the Pope which gave Spain a free hand in the rest of the continent while Portugal held sway in Brazil and the African coast.

Slavery started in America as a need for a new colonial model in what was considered the periphery of the so called "New World" so American slavery was a gradual development. Africans were no different from Europeans in that they were indentured servants and eventually earned their own land and became free people. The number of actual slaves was relatively small compared to the Caribbean and Brazil for example. It was really Stono's Rebellion that turned the tide in American history. It was from that that slavery on the basis of race was written, it started with small laws in the late 17th and early 18th century and before long they created a slave state. When you see how the process went about, what triggered the fears of the planter society, and how much of the racist slave society was written into the Constitution you see parallels which translate even to this day.

Yup. I agree, the only thing I disagree with is the dutch.

They began to trickle into South Africa around the late 1600s, same goes for NY, under the Dutch East Indian Company. The Portuguese discovered land south (africa) and west (america's) because they were looking for a way to bypass the M.E, around the arab empire who were imposing tax and into Asia for spices and gold. They felt the easiest way to acquire gold and resources in asia were to go around africa (using new ships , navigation technology such as the compass, and trade routes left/given/taught by the moors ahem), soon Vasco De Gama discovered west africa. Colombus was trying to reach India on it's east coast, instead finding the America's....coined the term "indians" when talking about native americans.... but I know you already knew that.

You are 100% correct about America tho. Remember, when I mention racist Brits, I am talking actual brits, not the pilgrims that were fleeing. The first wave, the one you're talking about, they were a religious bunch and didn't practice systematic slavery (like you said, that was gradual), only indentured servants which would then earn land. It wasn't until after when more companies arrived that tensions rose, Stono's Rebellion is what broke the camels back.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

i suggest taking actual African history courses in college or even high schools now have electives..

also is this source that has the history of africa; is it presented by a cac?..

nah.

btw. took both in college. It's just been so long I decided to do a quick refresh. I only took a semester of each, so we mostly glossed over south america while mostly focusing on the U.S. I mean we learned about Vincent Guerrero and key players like that, but we didn't really get into the black mexicans late 19th century on, or peru. we touched Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil, but mostly wars and things like that, not really deep into the social lives and progressions or lack of.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Yup. I agree, the only thing I disagree with is the dutch.

They began to trickle into South Africa around the late 1600s, same goes for NY, under the Dutch East Indian Company. The Portuguese discovered land south (africa) and west (america's) because they were looking for a way to bypass the M.E, around the arab empire who were imposing tax and into Asia for spices and gold. They felt the easiest way to acquire gold and resources into asia were to go around africa, soon Vasco De Gama discovered west africa. Colombus was trying to reach India on it's east coast, and thus found the America....thus the term "indians", when talking about native american. but I know you already knew that.

You are 100% correct about America tho. Remember tho, when I mention Brits, I am talking actual brits, not the pilgrims that were feeling. The first wave, the one you're talking about, they were a religious bunch and didn't practice systematically slavery, only indentured servants which would then earn you land. It wasn't until after when more companies arrived that tensions rose, Stono's Rebellion is what broke the camels back.

I won't say the Dutch weren't exploring at all, but they weren't as big a factor in the "New World" or even West Africa for some time because Spain and Portugal clamped down on the gold trade and got stupid rich from it. Plus, Columbus as a Genoa youngin travelled with Portuguese sailors and helped to map the West African coast in the late 1400s before he made his voyage to the West. Portuguese explorers were the ones to kick shyt off in West Africa/America and the other players came in later. Like if the Dutch got to S. Africa in the 1600s you're talking about nearly a century and a half after Spain and Portugal began their exploration, "discoveries", and eventually the trans-atlantic slave trade itself. It was the conquests of the Canary Islands and Cape Verde that got Spain and Portugal to such prominence. In fact, Columbus went to the Spanish crown because they wanted to find a new source of gold to rival the Portuguese who took control of the West African trade that was so coveted in Europe and the Middle East.

The thing that makes America interesting is that it wasn't all that coveted by the other Europeans, it couldn't sustain the plantation style of the islands, didn't have the mineral wealth of C/S America, harsh landscape, harsher natives. After a while when it became clear that the land was vast it became a way for landless Europeans to make a new life so America went from a bottom of the totem pole European colony to the first independent slave state. The Planter class was not only shrewd in how they created a new plantation model, but how they used the desire for land and work to divide the poor Europeans from the poor Africans. The American story is fascinating and brutally tragic all at once.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I won't say the Dutch weren't exploring at all, but they weren't as big a factor in the "New World" or even West Africa for some time. Plus, Colombus as a Genoa youngin travelled with Portuguese sailors and helped to map the West African coast before he made his voyage to the West. Portuguese explorers were the ones to kick shyt off in West Africa and the other players came in later. Like if the Dutch got to S. Africa in the 1600s you're talking about nearly a century and a half after Spain and Portugal began their exploration, "discoveries", and eventually the slave trade itself.

The thing that makes America interesting is that it wasn't all that coveted by the other Europeans, it couldn't sustain the plantation style of the islands, didn't have the mineral wealth of C/S America, harsh landscape, harsher natives. After a while when it became clear that the land was vast it became a way for landless Europeans to make a new life so America went from a bottom of the totem pole European colony to the first independent slave state. The Planter class was not only shrewd in how they created a new plantation model, but how they used the desire for land and work to divide the poor Europeans from the poor Africans. The American story is fascinating and brutally tragic all at once.

Indeed. And correct, the dutch weren't main players at all, that's why they weren't nearly as brutal (my point), eventually after xenophobia wore off, they began to intermarry. The portuguese started breeding with native brazilians off top, the king encouraged it. , now that I know the portuguese had already been mixing decades prior, it makes a lot more sense why it wasn't taboo. I'm currently trying to figure out how many of those during the 1700s were mixed men colonizing brazil. At least 1/4 of those men were probably mixed race with at least 1/8 black.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Indeed. And correct, the dutch weren't main players at all, that's why they weren't nearly as brutal (my point), eventually after xenophobia wore off, they began to intermarry. The portuguese started breeding with native brazilians off top, the king encouraged it. , now that I know the portuguese had already been mixing decades prior, it makes a lot more sense. I'm currently trying to figure out, how many of those during the 1700s werent mixed men colonizing brazil. At least 1/4 of those men were probably mixed race with at least 1/8 black.

It's crazy that those ultra-racist cacs in S.Africa are descendents of the Dutch. I need to learn more about the Boer Wars. But I know the Dutch definitely did the intermarriage thing in the islands and Africa. The Portuguese men were gettin with the Native Brazilians and African slaves because of a lack of Portuguese women available in the colony, them bytches wasn't tryna go to the middle of nowhere when they could stay in Portugal. I'm guessing that from the Pope's view, it was necessary for them to mix in order to ensure that the Church would maintain a hold on those lands and not perish. The slave numbers of Brazil were stupid high, they averaged a milly plus. It's 100% certain that lot of the oppressors in Brazil had some African or Native in their blood.

When you compare this trajectory with America its real interesting. Rather than constantly importing slaves and risking rebellion, they wanted to make the group self sustaining but at the same time the flood of Europeans to America gave whites a favorable majority over blacks unlike other parts of the "New World" so Brazilian black people retained much of their Africanness while American black people were basically an island in a sea of white and only held onto what they could. smh, you got me kickin myself for not coppin them African Diaspora books that I was suppose to get.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

It's crazy that those ultra-racist cacs in S.Africa are descendents of the Dutch. I need to learn more about the Boer Wars. But I know the Dutch definitely did the intermarriage thing in the islands and Africa. The Portuguese men were gettin with the Native Brazilians and African slaves because of a lack of Portuguese women available in the colony, them bytches wasn't tryna go to the middle of nowhere when they could stay in Portugal. I'm guessing that from the Pope's view, it was necessary for them to mix in order to ensure that the Church would maintain a hold on those lands and not perish. The slave numbers of Brazil were stupid high, they averaged a milly plus. It's 100% certain that lot of the oppressors in Brazil had some African or Native in their blood.

When you compare this trajectory with America its real interesting. Rather than constantly importing slaves and risking rebellion, they wanted to make the group self sustaining but at the same time the flood of Europeans to America gave whites a favorable majority over blacks unlike other parts of the "New World" so Brazilian black people retained much of their Africanness while American black people were basically an island in a sea of white and only held onto what they could. smh, you got me kickin myself for not coppin them African Diaspora books that I was suppose to get.

Some say that the British exaggerated claims as to have an excuse to invade. Considering Britain weren't the friendliest and had the biggest wars in the region, it's not far fetched. They also claimed the Spaniards were worse, but present day we have Mexicans. Ask an african american, and he'll hands down call the english speakers worse, heck, slaves were fleeing to Mexico, esp when Vincent Guerrero was president (black man).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Coloureds

Brazils slave trading was fukking insane. How a small country like Portugal could even pull that off is just....and them fools are currently broke, it was all for nothing.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Some say that the British exaggerated claims as to have an excuse to invade. Considering Britain weren't the friendliest and had the biggest wars in the region, it's not far fetched. They also claimed the Spaniards were worse, but present day we have Mexicans. Ask an african american, and he'll hands down call the english speakers worse, heck, slaves were fleeing to Mexico, esp when Vincent Guerrero was president (black man).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Coloureds

Brazils slave trading was fukking insane. How a small country like Portugal could even pull that off is just....and them fools are currently broke, it was all for nothing.

What's become of Portugal is so beautiful I swear it warms my heart to see poetic justice. If Belgium could collapse into complete chaos I'd have the biggest kool aid smile. It just makes me smirk watching European nations act like they so important when they gained their prominence through so much barbarism.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

What's become of Portugal is so beautiful I swear it warms my heart to see poetic justice. If Belgium could collapse into complete chaos I'd have the biggest kool aid smile. It just makes me smirk watching European nations act like they so important when they gained their prominence through so much barbarism.

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